12-14-2004, 04:00 PM
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X-Gadget Compares Audiovox's PPC6601 And palmOne's Treo 650
"When I first heard about the Audiovox PPC-6601 I thought finally there would be a PocketPC device similar to the Treo. The space saving slide-out keyboard looked like a great way to keep the device small and still be productive when writing email and text messages. However, pictures can be misleading and this is definitely the case with the PPC-6601. Instead of a seemingly compact PDA, it is comparable in size to the smaller iPaqs and is noticeably larger than the Treo 650."
I think the article gave the PPC-6601 a pretty fair evaluation, although the reviewer was clearly looking for a device that can be almost completely operated one-handed, something that the PPC-6601 is not, and as such was slightly biased towards the Treo; as of this moment, the Smartphone 2003 devices might be a better comparison. The review didn't spend much time comparing the two OSes, which I think plays a bigger role in differentiating the two devices. Anyway, I'd love to see a solution that takes the best of both units, but it seems like that will take some time.
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12-14-2004, 05:28 PM
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I really have to worry about the compentency of someone to do a review like this when their table lists PalmOS version for the Treo as 5.4 and the PalmOS version for the Audiovox as "Pocket PC 2003." Pretty obvious what the slant of thie site or at least the author is.
Furthermore, the ringtone listed for the Treo are 16 channel MIDI polyphonic (whoopee!!!!) and shown as "?" for the Pocket PC. Has this guy never heard of WAV files? :confused totally:
I didn't bother going past that. :roll:
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12-14-2004, 05:29 PM
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Pupil
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I have a PDA2K and a Treo 600 right now, I would say th Treo 600 (wich is not the 650) is more reliable and stable, I am waiting for palm to release the GSM version to use it in Mexico. I was using as my primary PDA the PDA2K and as second my p900, now I am using as primary my Treo 600 and as second my PDA2K, I like more the features of the PDA2K but I need more reliability on the phone side.
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12-14-2004, 05:42 PM
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Intellectual
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pda2k
Have you upgraded the Bluetooth using Club Imate fixes?
Any other problems with it?
Thanks
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12-14-2004, 06:07 PM
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Pupil
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Re: pda2k
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Originally Posted by urologyhealth
Have you upgraded the Bluetooth using Club Imate fixes?
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I already made the ROM upgrade, but I didn't have problems with the bluetooth at all. As for some problems I see is the sliding keyboard wich already has begun to be a little bit more loosen.
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12-14-2004, 06:15 PM
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Magi
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Re: pda2k
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I already made the ROM upgrade, but I didn't have problems with the bluetooth at all. As for some problems I see is the sliding keyboard wich already has begun to be a little bit more loosen. |
I'm not trying to be rude, saljamex, but how does the slightly loose keyboard impact on the reliability of the phone compared to a Palm based device? 
Dave
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12-14-2004, 06:35 PM
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Re: pda2k
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I already made the ROM upgrade, but I didn't have problems with the bluetooth at all. As for some problems I see is the sliding keyboard wich already has begun to be a little bit more loosen. |
I'm not trying to be rude, saljamex, but how does the slightly loose keyboard impact on the reliability of the phone compared to a Palm based device?
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The reliability problems I have are because sometimes (like 1 per day) I need to reset the phone because the radio is not working (GSM)(it appears to have no service, but when you reset the device you get full signal meter in the same area you are), and if you do not pay attention on that it makes you loose some calls.
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12-14-2004, 06:40 PM
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Magi
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Yup! That would have an impact. 
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12-14-2004, 06:54 PM
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Pupil
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My comments that I left on the review site:
Thanks for comparing and for writing the review! The screenshots were great! I think it is really difficult to compare these two devices, but as user of the T600 looking to switch, I like to see reviews comparing the units. To me, the T650 is what the T600 should have been a year ago, but don't get me wrong, I've loved my 600! P1 made some stupid choices with their new unit that have really turned me off (memory, wi-fi, no EV-DO support). They didn't put enough in to make this a "must-have" upgrade for T600 users at all. BUT, the 6600/6601 has quite a few enhancements (on the PDA side of things) for users of either device (600/650) that make it a really interesting upgrade choice. The author's review really does point out that the T650 is probably a better device as a PHONE, due to form factor and one-handed operation - both BIG pluses to the Treo line. This is also the first review I've read that complained about the keyboard on the 6600/6601, everyone else seemed to really like it (good tactile feedback, etc). Overall, it was a decent review, but not comprehensive enough! I would have to say if you compare the converged categories (Phone and PDA), you would have the T650 winning on the Phone side of things, and 6600/6601 winning the PDA side of things. Thanks for your time!
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12-14-2004, 06:56 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: X-Gadget Compares Audiovox's PPC6601 And palmOne's Treo 650
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Originally Posted by Janak Parekh
I think the article gave the PPC-6601 a pretty fair evaluation, although the reviewer was clearly looking for a device that can be almost completely operated without using the touchscreen, something that the PPC-6601 (and WM2003SE) is not, and as such was slightly biased towards the Treo;
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I disagree. With an integrated thumb-board, WM2003SE is completely usable for one-handed operations. Due to the sliding keyboard design however, the HTC Harrier/Blue Angel is not.
Example No. 361 - You can punch in numbers right from the Today screen (without using the Fn Key even), and the OS will take you straight to the Phone app as if you were operating any other phone OS.
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