11-23-2004, 08:00 PM
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Editor Emeritus
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BetaPlayer, Now With Preliminary 2700G VGA Support
"I'am working on Intel 2700G support for BetaPlayer. I'am not ready to release a new unstable version yet, but you can try out and beta test the first preliminary version. At the moment the code supporing Intel 2700G is in a separate closed-source plugin. Install the plugin after you installed the player."
Picard, the author of BetaPlayer, has been hard at work on Dell X50v accelerated playback, and the results look promising -- the X50v is capable of producing 40+ FPS, which in a word, is awesome. And this is just a preliminary version!
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11-23-2004, 08:24 PM
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Pupil
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it is insane what he has been able to accomplish. The x50v spanks ALL PPC now in video. THe 2700g is humbling
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11-23-2004, 08:25 PM
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Ponderer
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Can someone please post the intel2700g.setup file. Picard had to take it down due to license issues, but I NEED IT.
Edited by Moderator JR.
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11-23-2004, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kozak
Can someone please post the intel2700g.setup file. Picard had to take it down due to license issues, but I NEED IT.
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If he had to remove it due to licensing issues, then it should not be posted here either.
Thanks.
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11-23-2004, 09:52 PM
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Theorist
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will this also work for the e830?
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11-23-2004, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Rutledge
Quote:
Originally Posted by kozak
Can someone please post the intel2700g.setup file. Picard had to take it down due to license issues, but I NEED IT.
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If he had to remove it due to licensing issues, then it should not be posted here either.
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He did not have to remove it, and the 'licensing issue' is nonsense. The PocketTV people complained that he was creating a closed-source plugin for a GPL program. To avoid any confusion, he took down the plugin until the matter was clarified.
Kozak, check your PMs.
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11-23-2004, 10:22 PM
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Pontificator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcel_Proust
will this also work for the e830?
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No. The e830 doesn't have a 2700G. Only the Axim X50v does.
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11-23-2004, 11:48 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ADBrown
He did not have to remove it, and the 'licensing issue' is nonsense. The PocketTV people complained that he was creating a closed-source plugin for a GPL program. To avoid any confusion, he took down the plugin until the matter was clarified.
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I don't understand that. The PocketTV folks take active roles in the BetaPlayer forums but I guess they also do some back-stabbing at every chance they get.
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11-24-2004, 12:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R K
I don't understand that. The PocketTV folks take active roles in the BetaPlayer forums but I guess they also do some back-stabbing at every chance they get.
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Well, that's certainly the way the folks at Aximsite seem to have taken the PTV crew's commentary.
As for the licensing issue, the license used for BetaPlayer itself (the Gnu Public License) requires that all source code of BetaPlayer be open. The Non-Disclosure Agreement that Picard had to agree to to get the 2700G development information requires that the code to the plugin stay closed. The licensing question is whether the GPL on BetaPlayer would extend to the 2700G plugin. There's no real threat to Picard or BetaPlayer, just a legal technicality. I suspect that the GPL does not extend to the plugin, because that would cause untold havoc for existing GPL programs that use closed plugins, and closed programs that use GPL plugins.
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11-24-2004, 02:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ADBrown
I suspect that the GPL does not extend to the plugin, because that would cause untold havoc for existing GPL programs that use closed plugins, and closed programs that use GPL plugins.
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I'm sure Picard will figure it out, but the rule-of-thumb, if I remember correctly, is that if it's a dynamic run-time linking (i.e., not statically compiled against the library) is okay. The XFree86 folks have certainly taken advantage of this with their DRI driver interface that third parties like nVidia and ATI use. I'm not a GPL expert, though, so he really should contact one.
--janak
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