09-29-2004, 09:00 AM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Cathena Windows CE Laptop Available
"It sure looks like a regular laptop, but the Cathena is definitely not a regular laptop, especially since it runs on Windows CE rather than on the full Windows OS. It�s sort of like that movie Big, just with a PDA that�s woken up in the body of a laptop instead of some forgotten child actor waking up in Tom Hanks�s body (and it�s also not a movie, but whatever). The specs won�t blow you out of the water (64MB of ROM, 128MB of RAM, a 12.1-inch LCD screen, 802.11b WiFi, and a CompactFlash memory card slot�but NO hard drive), but you do get an instant-on laptop that weighs under 3 pounds and that�ll work just fine for taking notes, sending emails, instant messaging, and accessing the web"
It's always good to see new Windows CE devices, espcially when they have built in keyboards. The problem as ever, is price. Engadget are correct in thier post. $799 is a lot of your earth dollars. :?
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09-29-2004, 11:07 AM
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Thoughts Media Review Team
Join Date: May 2002
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No thanks - nice looking machine and all, but no hard drive, and I am guess no touch screen (going off the touch pad) with Win CE and probably a lack of compatible software. Then there is the price 8O ...
I think the idea of a laptop replacement using some version of the Win CE operating System would be very nice and certianly find a niche. But it would have to be innovative (I always liked the old Sharp/Vadam Clio) and most importantly come in at a price point considerably below a standard laptop. IMHO this offereing fails on both points.
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09-29-2004, 11:12 AM
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Developer & Designer, News Editor Emeritus
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A quote from: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/palmfaq.mspx
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5. What does the "CE" stand for?
"CE" doesn't represent a single concept, but rather implies a number of Windows CE design precepts, including "Compact, Connectable, Compatible, and Companion."
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I hardly see this as "compact" when you can get a Pocket PC instead. The website even stresses its suitability for "Palm-Size PCs". Sorry...but I don't have Hakeem Olajuwon-type hands. :wink:
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09-29-2004, 11:40 AM
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Theorist
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Although MS does not want to admit it, CE stands for Consumer Electronics.
Which include audio, digital imaging, gaming, home networking, mobile electronics and wireless devices.
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09-29-2004, 12:16 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I guess that it's an update to HP's Jornada 820, which I bought and have still got.
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09-29-2004, 01:45 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I loved that Jornada 820 and Sharp mobilon. Ah, what happy memories playing with those HPC-PRO and HPC class devices! This device certainly brings back those memories. And I think to me, this is where the utility of this device is. For me, I am eagerly awaiting Flipstart and OQO...
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09-29-2004, 01:57 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Screw the keyboard.
I suppose just a touch screen that size would bring the price quite a bit higher.
Look, this is what I want:
A big fricken screen, like page size
instant on
stylus input/block recognizer
sd card
cf card
WiFi
3 hour battery life
enough HP to run full motion video in a four-inch window.
no hard drive, no keyboard, no cd or floppy crap - gimme thin and light.
And I want it to be $800 bucks; I'd pay that much.
Is that so hard?
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09-29-2004, 02:08 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Originally Posted by DJ Apod
A quote from: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/palmfaq.mspx
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5. What does the "CE" stand for?
"CE" doesn't represent a single concept, but rather implies a number of Windows CE design precepts, including "Compact, Connectable, Compatible, and Companion."
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I hardly see this as "compact" when you can get a Pocket PC instead. The website even stresses its suitability for "Palm-Size PCs". Sorry...but I don't have Hakeem Olajuwon-type hands. :wink: |
They are talking about the OS. Compaired to Windows 98, 2K, XP it is a Compact OS.
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09-29-2004, 02:13 PM
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Developer & Designer, News Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Jonathan1
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Originally Posted by DJ Apod
A quote from: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/palmfaq.mspx
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5. What does the "CE" stand for?
"CE" doesn't represent a single concept, but rather implies a number of Windows CE design precepts, including "Compact, Connectable, Compatible, and Companion."
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I hardly see this as "compact" when you can get a Pocket PC instead. The website even stresses its suitability for "Palm-Size PCs". Sorry...but I don't have Hakeem Olajuwon-type hands. :wink: |
They are talking about the OS. Compaired to Windows 98, 2K, XP it is a Compact OS. |
Haha. I know that. I was making my point about "Palm-size" PCs and how this one isn't really palm-sized for my hands. 
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09-29-2004, 02:19 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Mar 2002
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I don't think so. CE laptop devices inhabit that realm of computer device that no one wants to play in. They don't run PDA software. (Well by and large they don't. There are some exceptions.) They don't run standard Windows software so you are stuck there.
They are way propriatary so forget calling anyone for tech support. Example: Trying to get your cable modem to work with this device and you call up comcast for help.
While I'm sure this thing gets some insane battery life, has instant on, and is rugged as heck due to the lack of moving parts its still a closed system. MS's handheld PC initiative should have cluded these guys into the fact that these devices aren't sitting in a good position for sales.
That being said its always nice that someone tries something new. If we didn't have people that risked everything there might not even be a PDA market right now.
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