08-04-2004, 02:30 AM
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Magi
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,186
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Free, All Ports GPRS Access Through T-Mobile?
I'm not sure if this is a mistake or a policy shift, but it appears that T-Mobile has removed all port restrictions from their free GPRS access. Review Team member Ryan Joseph broke the news in this thread, which I was able to confirm almost immediately. Prior to this, Pocket MSN Messenger would not work, nor would any secure site. Now I can use MSN Messenger without a hiccup, and Ryan was able to make a Handango purchase over the air. This seems a bit odd, especially since T-Mobile sells what appears to be the exact same access for $20/month. I'm happy, since the free GPRS was the primary reason why I chose T-Mobile - this is making a good deal even better. What are your thoughts?
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08-04-2004, 02:51 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 131
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Old news
Actually all ports on the wap.voicestream.com gateway had been opened since February of this year(2004). I noticed it when I was able to sign in with MSN Messenger, I tried other secure sites immediately and they worked. I'm suprised its just making news now.
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08-04-2004, 02:56 AM
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Theorist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 268
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Yeah, I've actually been able to use secure sites (like paypal) for quite awhile.. hopefully it stays this way, and they don't close GPRS entirely, as some fear right now..
-arebelspy
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08-04-2004, 03:19 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 106
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T-Mobile
T-Mobile's annoying in that they never make press releases about GPRS access. The only way to find out about rate and policy changes are by reading sites like PPCT (which i do anyway, but still!).
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08-04-2004, 03:22 AM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,041
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Yes, I've been using MSN Messenger on my iPAQ for a while now via T-Mobile... Though it makes it harder not to use IM... 
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08-04-2004, 03:26 AM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 545
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I hope I don't ruin it for you....
I had posed this question to T-Mobile support as I now have a GPRS card with them. If GPRS is truely free now, then I am switching my voice lines to T-Mobile if the data is free. Hopefully this won't ruin it for you! :|
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08-04-2004, 03:54 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 50
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Now I'm confused. I've been paying for $20 a month for the last 1 1/2 years and now you're saying it is free. What is different and how do I get the free one? Do I need to have different settings? Now I just connect through vpn. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Cheryl
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08-04-2004, 04:10 AM
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Executive Editor, Android Thoughts
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,233
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Yea, us $20 a month people are a bit aggrevated about this. I don't mind you having free access (In fact, I'd love to see that) - I just don't want to keep paying for $20 a month that is free to others... So I'd like them to Stop charging me for data!
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Executive Editor - Android Thoughts
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08-04-2004, 04:48 AM
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Neophyte
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2
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I use it constantly (and pay the $20 8O ). I suppose I would use it less after I upgrade to the HP 6315 and am able to use the higher speed WiFi connection. Maybe that is part of their reasoning for it?
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08-04-2004, 04:50 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 241
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it's true
As i am a frequenter of odd ports (streaming radio) I have noticed a shift this week versus last.
It is always a struggle on shoutcast to find people who are streaming on ok ports. I never cared enough to set up a http proxy at home, but today no matter what I tried they all played perfectly (instead of server error due to port unreachable).
I think there was a change about the same time as the free wap pull. They may have lifted the https restriction in february or so, I didn't know that as I rarely use them on the go, but I think there was a much bigger lifting more recently.
<rant>If this was intentional, then I will forgive them for removing my precious, yes, foebsees loves my precious . . </rant>
As for the 20$ thing. I had that for exactly a day or so. Roughly.
I bought my phone along with a friend, and we had heard of the confusion surrounding this setup in US and abroad. I got the unlimited internet plan and my friend got nothing. base plan no fixins.
We set the phones up by searching google, and when we finished we found they worked identically with one difference. The base plan with no fixings can't access t-mobiles wap page t-zones, but it could access every other wap site. And the second difference (i did say two differences, didn't i?) was the inabillity of the base plan to access anything but ports 80(web) 25 and 110(pop and smtp) and... i think 421.. or something. there was a fourth port i think..
So basically, cancel your unlimited internet plan, and then PM me if you have problems connecting. There may be a change on the ipaq or the phone you need to make, probably turn a 1 into a 2 or a 3 or somesuch. T-Mobile support may make you suffer in the world of transfers between departments before getting you to someone who can help, but if I get a PM, I will build up a little walkthrough from stuff I find on google and post it in off-topic.
There was another rumour of a speed difference between the two, gprs unlimited and free version, but I assure you there is none. Its the same thing, just the ports were limited.
Good luck!
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