08-02-2004, 07:00 PM
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BargainPDA Slams The iPAQ rz1715
"In truth, there's nothing massively defective about the iPaq rz1715 itself, aside from a really bad name and some questionable design choices. It's very low end, but sometimes you need very low-end hardware. Priced at $150, the 1715 would make a decent entry-level PocketPC for bringing in the Zire customers--people who don't care to spend a lot, and only want the basics. But there's the crux of the matter. It isn't priced at $150. It's priced at $280, an upper-midrange price point for digging-under-the-barrel hardware. For a lot less than the 1715, you could buy an Axim X30 312 MHz combo that would be faster, have more memory, better build quality, removable battery, and dual wireless. And for the same or a little more than the 1715, you could get a high-end X30 that is much faster than the 1715 in addition to everything else. Trying to sell the rz1715 for $280 is the kind of craziness that usually requires illegal narcotics, and lots of them. It isn't worth it."
Oof. 8O Couple that with the only pro they list, "Makes a great way to identify stupid rich people", and the consensus certainly seems to be that HP has built a seriously overpriced Zire-equivalent Pocket PC. I'd love to see such a device like this near the $150 price range, but I'm afraid I have to largely agree with BargainPDA's conclusions based on the device as it stands now. If you ever want to read a smackdown, check this review out.
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08-02-2004, 07:08 PM
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its all funny because its true
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08-02-2004, 07:13 PM
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 I wish I could laugh at this smackdown. But the fact of the matter is someone at HP has royally screwed up on this entire line in one form or another and its making this fall's Pocket PC lineup look a bit sad. (We'll see what Asus has to offer come X-Mas :roll: ) Again I will suggest the only reason we are seeing the 1715 at the price its currently at is because its closest real competition, Dell, is not in retail stores. No brick in mortar presence, IMHO, = few worries for HP.
Hmmm that is a good question. Not to get to far off topic but does anyone know what the ratio is for online vs. retail store sales?
Oh and my fav quote from the article:
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I'll give it this, it is feather light, just shy of four and a quarter ounces, but I find it hard to get excited about it being tiny and useless.
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:roll: Sad really.
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08-02-2004, 07:24 PM
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I will personally throw rocks and large blunt objects at anyone who buys one of these, heck if I see any of you even pick one up on display at Circuit City I will have you arrested for indecent exposure!! :lol:
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08-02-2004, 07:24 PM
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Re: BargainPDA Slams The iPAQ rz1715
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Originally Posted by Janak Parekh
"Makes a great way to identify stupid rich people".
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Well maybe that is the whole point. Every company needs some swag they can throw into the gift basket at the Academy Awards and such. There is the off chance that some celeb might be caught holdng it. Listing it at $280 ups that tax write off 
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08-02-2004, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ARNAGE2
its all funny because its true
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Hmmm... It would be if it was not...
To be honest, I am afraid that there really will be people who are buying this device because they simply do not know better.
If you are buying an HP you are expecting a certain standard of quality - like buying a Sony or a BMW. With this device they simply failed to reach to their minimum standard... or has HP lowered it.
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08-02-2004, 07:34 PM
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good point. someone is gonna buy it. get pissed, then never buy another ppc again
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08-02-2004, 07:41 PM
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*cringe* You rarely see a beating like that outside a boxing ring. Well deserved. HP goes KO in round one.
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08-02-2004, 07:47 PM
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Hopefully HP doesn't judge their upcoming sales numbers as a stale market, and then pull a Sony and pull out of the PPC market altogether.
In other words, hopefully HP didn't dig its own grave with this new lineup of PPCs. Frankly, none of the devices in the lineup does it for me, nor does it offer anything more than what my 2215 has right now -- except 2003 SE, which HP has declined to put on the 2215 because it would mean no one would buy their new lineup, because a 2215 with SE will be cheaper and just as powerful.
HP knows this. They know their new lineup sucks. But this is the only thing they can do, this far into the game. <sigh>
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08-02-2004, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ARNAGE2
good point. someone is gonna buy it. get pissed, then never buy another ppc again
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No someone is going to buy it get pissed, return it, go buy something more powerful. Also I was talking to a rep at Best Buy the other day. The is already a rep forming for this device at retail stores. The guy I talked to basically said the thing was junk and wouldn't be recommending it to anyone if possible. I'm a petty person in some ways. I abhor a company who is cheap and maybe I'm off on this but that is how I feel the entire line of HP's Pocket PC's (with the exception, I hope, being the 4705.) is just that�cheap. Consequently I hope at minimum the rz1715 falls flat on its face. HP has been riding high on a crest of success the last few years and, again IMHO, this feels like they are taking that success for granted.
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