07-05-2004, 10:00 PM
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Editor Emeritus
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Today's iPAQ 6300 Rumors
Can we get the iPAQ 6300 into the Guinness Book of World Records for the worst-kept secret of all time?  "Surprise! Surprise! Here are the latest leaks on the H6300 series... First, the H6300 series has made its way to Pocket PC Dubai where one of their forum members sent in pictures of his excursion with the H6310 (camera-less model). Secondly, PPC Italia has posted many juicy screenshots of the H6300 series iPAQ Pocket PC including screenshots of the updated iPAQ Wireless and HP Profiles applications...."
There's more in the article, but I'll just show you two of the sweet screenshots to whet your appetite.
 
I think Marc puts it best by saying "Um, I don't know about you, but could we have an official announcement on this iPAQ sometime soon? All these leaks are driving me nuts!"
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07-05-2004, 10:15 PM
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Thinker
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Today's IPAQ 6300 Rumors
I'm in total agreement with Marc. I check on this item two or three times daily. I can't wait for a confirmed report on its availability.
My PPC is being used as a phone only. I go into a state of depression when I can't use my PDA.
I'm ready to order NOW!!!
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07-05-2004, 10:28 PM
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Philosopher
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I am out of contract, and am holding off renewing until some of these new devices launch. I'm still trying to decide between PPCPE or MS Smartphone.
My BIG concern regarding a PPCPE is: while I'm using it with my Bluetooth GPS for street navigation, and I get a call, can I answer it (with, say, a Bluetooth headset) WITHOUT disrupting the Bluetooth GPS stream? (any current Bluetooth equiped PPCPE device owners care to comment?).
If the answer is "yes," its PPCPE all the way, and then just have to decide between the MPx (as my avatar currently displays) or this h6300. Form factor of the MPx is very intriging, but quad band feature of h6300 is nice too.
If the answer is no, then I'll *have* to go with an MS Smartphone (MPx 100 or 220) and demote my current PPC (iPaq 5455) to in car GPS and database use only.
When will this (and the other batch of new devices) be launched?????????? :worried:
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07-06-2004, 12:04 AM
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Mystic
Join Date: Aug 2006
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You can sleep easy and get ready to spend big bucks on the Mpx.
Using my XDA2 I can use my bluetooth GPS unit and answer a call with my bluetooth headset without any problem. On the xda-developers website some-one went to even further extremes, having a conversation on a bluetooth headset, GPS connection and bluetooth activesync at the same time.
I understand the Mpx uses the same bluetooth stack as the XDA 2 (which is not exactly good news, as its quite limited  )
I personally would never go for a smartphone device. If you are planning to start over with a new operating system (and you will be, as you cant use pocketpc software) you might as well go for symbian, who have better devices and a more developed software base. You may have a symbian device already, and have probably not installed any software on it at all.
Surur
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07-06-2004, 12:13 AM
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Philosopher
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Originally Posted by Surur
You can sleep easy and get ready to spend big bucks on the Mpx.
Using my XDA2 I can use my bluetooth GPS unit and answer a call with my bluetooth headset without any problem. On the xda-developers website some-one went to even further extremes, having a conversation on a bluetooth headset, GPS connection and bluetooth activesync at the same time.
I understand the Mpx uses the same bluetooth stack as the XDA 2 (which is not exactly good news, as its quite limited )
I personally would never go for a smartphone device. If you are planning to start over with a new operating system (and you will be, as you cant use pocketpc software) you might as well go for symbian, who have better devices and a more developed software base. You may have a symbian device already, and have probably not installed any software on it at all.
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That's great news....thanks for replying! It definetely lets me keep considering the PPCPE as opposed to MS Smartphone.
Anyone know what Bluetooth stack the h6300 uses (since the MPx & MDAII bluetooth stacks are not great)?
I respect your opinion regarding MS Smartphones.....they're not for everyone. Me? The single most important thing I will do with my next device (again, either PPCPE or MS Smartphone) is Activesync to my hosted Exchange 2003 account ( www.eoutlook.com ). Only MS client Operating Systems can do that currently, so that's where I'm at.
Thanks again for sharing the good news regarding simeltaneous Bluetooth connections!
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07-06-2004, 12:21 AM
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Ponderer
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While I don't doubt the info in these "leaks" (much!) I do find it quite interesting that, for a company whose primary target market is the continental USA, all the "advanced info" always seems to originate from Pocket PC Dubai or PPC Italia. I don't see US sites "leaking" rumors about the next O2 XDA model in advance of the Asian websites - according to the logic of the HP 63xx "leaks", O2 should be displaying its newest models in the US first, since they don't sell them here, and won't be selling them here anytime soon.
Unlike Nokia (who claims that "the US is not its primary target market" - I have it in an email reply from them...) is there really that significant a market in Dubai such that HP would reveal new models made in Taiwan, to the Dubai market first?
According to the DataDubai website "An estimated one million people live in this city, almost double the population of Abu Dhabi which has just above 500,000 residents, the Ministry of Planning said."
So, if every citizen in Dubai received an HP63xx in the mail tomorrow morning, HP would have barely reached 10% of the people in NYC alone. HP's marketing strategists must be at least capable of figuring out a better way to reach more potential customers than this.
Will the official rumors start originating from Pocket PC Iraq, or PPC Tibet next? How about Pocket PC Mars? At least the info would be more believable if the "leaked" pictures came via the Spirit Mars Rover.
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07-06-2004, 12:39 AM
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Editor Emeritus
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Originally Posted by corphack
Unlike Nokia (who claims that "the US is not its primary target market" - I have it in an email reply from them...) is there really that significant a market in Dubai such that HP would reveal new models made in Taiwan, to the Dubai market first?
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I asked the same question when the XDA 2 was released there first, and people correctly pointed out that Dubai is rapidly establishing itself as a technology center with excellent wireless technologies. I'm no longer surprised.  Moreover, HP's marketing seems to have been backwards the last few years. :|
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07-06-2004, 01:04 AM
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that Dubai is rapidly establishing itself as a technology center with excellent wireless technologies.
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but the most HP could possibly hope to sell in Dubai is 1 million units - after that, the market is saturated and the product line will have to be obsoleted there in order for HP to sell any other models.
The Research Triangle, NC has already established itself as a technology center with excellent wireless and wired technologies and a population of 1.1 million. HP could stay at home and instantly realize a market potential of 0.1 million more people.
The island of Tonga is 109,000. If HP believed Tonga is rapidly establishing itself as a technology center with excellent wireless technologies, it still wouldn't justify a product premier in Tonga.
Manufacturers have to release products where there is a sizable and viable target market, and an existing network of retailers to stock and sell their goods. These are just basics of Marketing 101. Compared with any market in the US and without disparaging Dubai's positive developments, a total population of 1 million people is not a superior target market to the US or to Europe.
As such, I would still be more likely to believe these "leaks" originating from PPC Mars via the Spirit Rover before I would believe them from PPC Dubai.
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07-06-2004, 01:24 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Aug 2002
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I had a look at those screenshots and have come away wondering if they couldn't do the wireless config page better.
Surely as devices get more and more connection options (GSM, BT, Wifi, WiMax), it would be better to simply say "Application X prefers connection Y, but if you can't get a connection then try connection Z".
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Or possibly use an extension of TCP/IP route metrics: define a measure that combines the cost, speed and availability of a given connection, and have the system decide what the 'cheapest' connections is.
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You could take it a step further and use profiles (kinda like the phone ring profiles) that say "when I'm at home, prefer connection via my wifi AP, but if that doesn't work try BT via my desktop PC"; and "when I'm at starbucks try wifi first then GPRS". Hell, if you installed VoIP software on the 6300 I'd imagine you'd hardly need GSM in most cities :lol:
I've had a bit of a rant about it here.
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07-06-2004, 01:47 AM
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Pontificator
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Originally Posted by corphack
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that Dubai is rapidly establishing itself as a technology center with excellent wireless technologies.
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but the most HP could possibly hope to sell in Dubai is 1 million units - after that, the market is saturated and the product line will have to be obsoleted there in order for HP to sell any other models.
The Research Triangle, NC has already established itself as a technology center with excellent wireless and wired technologies and a population of 1.1 million. HP could stay at home and instantly realize a market potential of 0.1 million more people.
The island of Tonga is 109,000. If HP believed Tonga is rapidly establishing itself as a technology center with excellent wireless technologies, it still wouldn't justify a product premier in Tonga.
Manufacturers have to release products where there is a sizable and viable target market, and an existing network of retailers to stock and sell their goods. These are just basics of Marketing 101. Compared with any market in the US and without disparaging Dubai's positive developments, a total population of 1 million people is not a superior target market to the US or to Europe.
As such, I would still be more likely to believe these "leaks" originating from PPC Mars via the Spirit Rover before I would believe them from PPC Dubai. |
It doesnt matter how big the population is, its far more important how big the perceived target audience is in any given market.
Thats why you dont see these things poping up in mainland China and you acknoledged as much already by mentioning the Triangle.
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