06-24-2004, 05:00 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Strange Days At iBIZ
Robert from SmartMobileAssets has some interesting, if disturbing information, about iBIZ and their Virtual Keyboard.
"It seems, according to the suit, that certain individuals, key figures in several behind-the-scenes PDA product companies, approached iBiz with the Virtual Keyboard product and sold them on the idea. After a long process they agreed to supply this technology to iBiz and iBiz began promoting the hell out of the concept in trade journals, web sites and old-style media, up to and including a New York Times review. Then came the news, quickly hushed, that deliveries were being delayed because no one had bothered to get FCC approval for the Laser!"
Things only get stranger from there, so take a look at the article and see what you think. I think it's fairly safe to say we're not going to see this available in the immediate future. (We previously posted on the delay here).
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06-24-2004, 05:39 PM
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Mystic
Join Date: Feb 2004
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:rofl: Maybe they should have held back on the marketing a bit, now this seems like vaporware.
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06-24-2004, 05:56 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Feb 2002
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FCC approval for the laser? Does a red laser beam really need FCC approval? If so, does that mean that all of those now-ultra-cheap laser pointers require FCC approval, too? This seems hard to believe.
FWIW, though, I personally think this laser-beam keyboard is an awful idea. I guess it's OK for hunt-and-peckers, but as a touch-typist, I definitely need the tactile feedback of a real keyboard.
Scott
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06-24-2004, 06:37 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by Scott R
FCC approval for the laser? Does a red laser beam really need FCC approval? If so, does that mean that all of those now-ultra-cheap laser pointers require FCC approval, too? This seems hard to believe.
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Don't underestimate how stupid some people can be. In this case, they're a bunch of flaming retards, obviously.
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FWIW, though, I personally think this laser-beam keyboard is an awful idea. I guess it's OK for hunt-and-peckers, but as a touch-typist, I definitely need the tactile feedback of a real keyboard.
Scott
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Yeah while a *dr evil air quotes* "La-ser" might sound cool, it's not exactly practical. It's totally unusable for touch typists like myself, or anyone who can type at any speed above granny.
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06-24-2004, 06:44 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by Scott R
FCC approval for the laser? Does a red laser beam really need FCC approval? If so, does that mean that all of those now-ultra-cheap laser pointers require FCC approval, too? This seems hard to believe.
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I don't think it needs "approval", but it does have to be verified. Basically, anything that radiates energy and could cause interference to transmitters has to be looked at:
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Verification is the easiest approval to obtain. It is reserved for most unintentional radiators. An unintentional radiator is a device not specifically designed to radiate radio frequency (RF) energy; the RF energy is parasitic to the device's operation. Examples of products that require verification are lasers, blenders, vaccum cleaners, etc.
Once a product has been verified as being compliant to the requirements of CFR47, a label attesting to this shall be affixed to the product and reproduced in the product literature. The manufacturer shall keep the test report on file for the life of the product. The report shall be surrendered to the FCC upon request.
-From CFR47, Part 2.902, 10/1/98, 2.952 - 2.953
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06-24-2004, 07:18 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I thought the FDA regulated lasers in the U.S. (Strange, I know, but I remember reading that somewhere.)
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06-24-2004, 07:24 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by djdj
I thought the FDA regulated lasers in the U.S. (Strange, I know, but I remember reading that somewhere.)
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The Food and Drug Association???
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06-24-2004, 07:31 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by torok
The Food and Drug Association???
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The one and only.
Look it up using your favorite search engine. Surprising, isn't it.
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06-24-2004, 08:04 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 545
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Clarify some things...
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The Food and Drug Association???
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FDA is NOT Food and Drug Association
FDA=Food and Drug Administration
ALSO, FDA would not regulate the laser itself, but the way it is used relating to food. Even if they did, it would do so poorly hearing how they manage bottled water(bacterium, arsenic.....yes all in yummy bottled water.....).
The whole device has to go before the FCC for type acceptance similarly to the PDA's containing Bluetooth and WiFi. Why you may ask? A laser is a form of EM radiation just like RF is. The wavelength of a laser is on the low end of the visible spectrum usually but it does not have to be. You can have lasers that produce no light, but they would have to produce light here. Whether it is visible or not, it would have to be type accepted...no question. Type acceptance can be a long and drawn out process. I bet though, that the whole thing has to be a scam period.
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06-24-2004, 08:33 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by Pat Logsdon
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Verification is the easiest approval to obtain. It is reserved for most unintentional radiators. An unintentional radiator is a device not specifically designed to radiate radio frequency (RF) energy; the RF energy is parasitic to the device's operation. Examples of products that require verification are lasers, blenders, vaccum cleaners, etc.
Once a product has been verified as being compliant to the requirements of CFR47, a label attesting to this shall be affixed to the product and reproduced in the product literature. The manufacturer shall keep the test report on file for the life of the product. The report shall be surrendered to the FCC upon request.
-From CFR47, Part 2.902, 10/1/98, 2.952 - 2.953
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Is this the FCC part 15 "must not create interferance, must accept interfearance"?
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