05-26-2004, 06:00 AM
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HP Updates WLAN Support For 5400/5500. The 5500 Gets WPA Support
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/HandheldiPAQ/us/locate/105_5644.html
HP has released some updates to their WiFi enabled 5400 and 5500 devices running the Windows Mobile 2003 OS.
� HP iPAQ Pocket PC h5400/h5500 Series WLAN Driver Update � HP iPAQ Pocket PC h5500 Series Wireless LAN Driver Update with WPA Support
Both updates are RAM patches. Please read the requirements to make sure you have the correct ROM revision on your device.
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05-26-2004, 07:10 AM
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Sage
Join Date: Aug 2006
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To avoid any possible mishaps read everything and backup before you install the updates. You must also have ROM v1.10.10 (h5500) already installed. Then install the updates in this order:- 1. SP27632 (Softpaq v3.2.4.133)
2. SP27595 (Softpaq v4.3.5.414)
3. SP27605 (Softpaq v1.10.5.164)
Soft-Reset after each one.
Do not install SP27658 (Softpaq v.0.103.5.41) unless you want to revert back to the original factory-installed wireless LAN firmware (v100.5.39).
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05-26-2004, 07:20 AM
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Sage
Join Date: Mar 2004
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this was a very uneventful update, can you see the difference, I can't see the difference, can you see the difference other than the memory loss. I will have to play around to see if the update did in fact fix things.
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05-26-2004, 10:50 AM
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Swami
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,396
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Confusing Updates
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Originally Posted by WyattEarp
To avoid any possible mishaps read everything and backup before you install the updates. You must also have ROM v1.10.10 (h5500) already installed. Then install the updates in this order: - 1. SP27632 (Softpaq v3.2.4.133)
2. SP27595 (Softpaq v4.3.5.414)
3. SP27605 (Softpaq v1.10.5.164)
Soft-Reset after each one.
Do not install SP27658 (Softpaq v.0.103.5.41) unless you want to revert back to the original factory-installed wireless LAN firmware (v100.5.39).
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Could HP have made this any more confusing? :roll: As discussed in the "New WiFi Firmware/Drivers for 5550 available" thread, these updates seem more painful than necessary.
Steve
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05-26-2004, 01:57 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 104
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Ipaq 5450 and Belkin Wireless AP Switch Combo
I was hoping that these new drivers would help me finally connect to my Belkin Wireless AP. With the previous drivers, whenever I tried to connect, the AP name would flash instantly on and off the screen, and it would never connect.
With the new drivers, it finds the AP, it stays on screen i.e. visible so that I can enter the wep key, but even though it says its connected, I cant ping the device or get to the internet. The AP is 54g but is backwards compatible, I have no problems using it with an older Dell notebook for example.
When I went into the network settings on the ipaq, and was checking the security options a message popped up on screen saying that a personal certificate is required for authorisation, but I have no idea how to pass or create this certificate.
Do any of you have one of these switches and have you managed to successfully connect your ipaq with it?
Andrew
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05-26-2004, 02:02 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 545
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WPA! YAH!
This is a GOOD thing. Now I can (and have....it's that easy..did it all in about 5 minutes) moved from WEP to WPA. WPA defintiely hase some nice features. The 5555 supports both the Radius and the WPA-PSK options. This is SOOOO much better then WEP. Entering in big long WEP keys was a PAIN. I have to do more research, but I think that WPA is supposed to be more secure. Now, HP, WHERE'S THE WM 2003 SE ROM IMAGE! :bad-words:
I don't think you need both of those first 2 softpaqs, but I did as you had suggested and it worked. One thign I did notice is that the first two wanted to overwrite the same files so odds are you don't need both, but you can probably be OK by installing both AND the firmware update Which does everything in place like a good firmware update should meaning no Hard Reset!
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05-26-2004, 02:16 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: Ipaq 5450 and Belkin Wireless AP Switch Combo
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Originally Posted by Andrew
I was hoping that these new drivers would help me finally connect to my Belkin Wireless AP. With the previous drivers, whenever I tried to connect, the AP name would flash instantly on and off the screen, and it would never connect.
With the new drivers, it finds the AP, it stays on screen i.e. visible so that I can enter the wep key, but even though it says its connected, I cant ping the device or get to the internet. The AP is 54g but is backwards compatible, I have no problems using it with an older Dell notebook for example.
When I went into the network settings on the ipaq, and was checking the security options a message popped up on screen saying that a personal certificate is required for authorisation, but I have no idea how to pass or create this certificate.
Do any of you have one of these switches and have you managed to successfully connect your ipaq with it?
Andrew
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You broasdcast yoru BSSID??? Bad thing. You don't specifically mention it, but from what you say is happening it looks like thats what you are doing. Turn off the broadcastung of the BSSID, then configure it. The 5555 will connect to it even if it never shows up in a bubble. To configure, click on the connection icon after turning it on, then click settings and go to the advanced tab. Clicking on network card will bring up your list of AP's that it sees. Don't worry if you can't see it...thats OK! Thats what we want! Tap Add New and add your AP's name and then tap on Network Key and enter in the appropriate info depending on if you need WEP or WPA. Enter in the key. Click out of the screen and it should connect.
Why do you not want to broadcast your BSSID?? First, it's harder to hack your AP if they can't see it. They may be able to tell you have an AP, but they will have to work much harder to find out the name and then they also have to guess your WEP key or WPA Key or scan enough packets to pick the WEP key up. It's not the total security panacea, but it adds another layer.
Also, regarding the BSSID, change it from the default. you don't know how many people I have seen who broadcast their ID's have the default linksys or 2wire as their AP name. Defaults are bad things on AP's!
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05-26-2004, 02:19 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165
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Re: WPA! YAH!
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Originally Posted by gorkon280
Now, HP, WHERE'S THE WM 2003 SE ROM IMAGE! :bad-words:
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<sarcastic>Where's the ROM? I think HP is just waiting for all of us to put our wallets back in our pockets & give up on them before they release the WM2003SE ROM (I need the 4150/55 ROM).</sarcastic>
From a marketing perspective, if I were HP, I'd wait until my new line of iPaqs (with WM2003SE on them) were in the channel and on the shelves for a few months before I released a "non-necessary update" to end users (thus hoping some consumers would purchase the new units, partially to get the new OS).
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Originally Posted by gorkon280
You broasdcast yoru (sip) BSSID??? Bad thing. You don't specifically mention it, but from what you say is happening it looks liek thats what you are doing. Turn off the broadcastung of the BSSID, then configure it. The 5555 will connect to it even if it never shows up in a bubble. To configure, click on the connectin icon after turning it on, then click settings and go to the advanced tab. Clicking on network card will bring up your list of AP's that it sees. Don;t worry if you can't see it...thats OK! Thats what we want! Tap Add New and add your AP's name and then tap on Network Key and enter in the appropriate info depending on if you need WEP or WPA. Enter in the key. Click out of the screen and it should connect.
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I have been broadcasting my BSSID from my Linksys WRT54G ever since I got my 4155, I couldn't "see" it to be able to connect to it otherwise.
Thank you for showing me how to do it "the right way!"
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05-27-2004, 06:01 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: WPA! YAH!
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Originally Posted by gorkon280
I have to do more research, but I think that WPA is supposed to be more secure.
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WPA is definitely much more secure than WEP. For one thing, it uses a rotating encryption scheme (in fact, it uses a different key for each 802.11 frame), whereas WEP uses only a static key. WPA also adds integrity checks to ensure that the frames haven't been tampered with along the way, something WEP lacks. There are a ton of other features, and while WPA isn't perfect, it is designed to eliminate all of the flaws in WEP.
However, be warned. Since most of you don't have the RADIUS server required for true WPA (which uses 802.1x), you'll use the "Pre-Shared Key" variety (WPA-PSK). This type of WPA has been found to be easily cracked ***IF*** you use a passphrase that is susceptible to dictionary attacks. In other words, make sure your passphrase is at least 20 or so characters long (spaces don't count) and have a good mixture of upper/lower case letters, numbers, and non-alphanumeric characters.
By the way, on my home network, I DO happen to have a RADIUS server setup for 802.1x authentication, and I can tell you that with these new patches, my network is now WEP free. My iPAQ was my only non-WPA-capable device, which brings up another good point. For you to get rid of WEP completely, your Access Point, your wireless (client) hardware (e.g. PCMCIA cards for laptops), and your operating system (or at least the software handling your wireless connection) must ALL support WPA. If they don't, they'll fall back to WEP encryption. If your don't have WEP active, then those clients won't connect. Windows XP (even with SP1) doesn't support WPA, but there is an update available through Windows Update (it's not one of the critical ones, so you need to select it to install it).
At any rate, I use true WPA with 802.1x, and my iPAQ accesses the network (and more importantly, the internet) just fine. It was a pain in the butt to register my locally-generated certificate on my iPAQ, since I don't have a cradle available at home, and the root certificate must be installed and registered BEFORE you can access the WLAN, but once I exported my root certificate, and (via the SD card) installed it on the iPAQ, things fell in place.
For those of you with RADIUS servers, keep in mind, that the iPAQ does not generate (or use) a computer object in Active Directory, so you'll need to limit the USER OBJECTS that can authenticate if you want to prevent alien iPAQs from accessing your network. Of course, these unauthorized iPAQs would still have had to get your root certificate somehow, so there's not much to worry about here. Just something to keep in mind.
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05-27-2004, 06:24 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WyattEarp
You must also have ROM v1.10.10 (h5500) already installed. Then install the updates in this order: - 1. SP27632 (Softpaq v3.2.4.133)
2. SP27595 (Softpaq v4.3.5.414)
3. SP27605 (Softpaq v1.10.5.164)
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I just noticed this, and thought I should point out. SP27595 incorporates all of the changes in SP27632, so there's no need to install that first SP. Just make sure you have ROM v1.10.10 (SP27674), then install numbers 2 and 3 in the list above (in that order), and you'll be fine.
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