04-26-2004, 08:00 AM
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WordNetCE 0.995 Freeware Pocket PC Dictionary/Thesaurus Released
"The goal of my project is to make a high quality, free dictionary/thesaurus for the Pocket PC platform. To date there is nothing out there that's both free and high quality."
That pretty much sums up Troy Simpson attribute towards WordNetCE. It's a program he created to provide a free dictionary/thesaurus solution with modern terms and a very large wordbase of over 144,000 words. The program is based on the popular desktop version of WordNet created by Princeton University which is free to modify and distribute. The dictionary is downloaded separately from Princeton and it's recommended to copy it to a storage card folder due to its large size (~35MB). You can get it here.
I installed it just now and I have to say I'm impressed with the dictionary. It has extensive, clear definitions and seems to cover most words I can think of. I was apprehensive about using a dictionary with US spelling, but what do you know, it's got UK spelling as well! For example, both Aluminium and Aluminum were listed together, as well as Colour and Color. Nice, very nice in fact. The program interface was simple, yet powerful enough to do exactly what I wanted. It's a keeper!
WordNetCE requires Pocket PC 2002 with the compact .Net Framework OR Windows Mobile 2003. Whilst WordNetCE is free, the author asks that small donations be made (particularly if it's used in any type of organisation), so that the website can be kept online and more quality freeware can be produced. You know the drill guys. 8)
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04-26-2004, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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35Mb! 8O
Even with a 512Mb SD Card, that is alot of space! The other competiting (and not free) dictionaries are ~10Mb. Even this was too much! Is there no compression or anything?
Still free is good 8)
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04-26-2004, 10:39 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Hey, thanks for the plug guys, it's a really nice gesture, I'm stoked! 8)
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Is there no compression or anything?
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Good point darrylb, being straight text it will compress a lot. My main aim was to actually get it to work, and as my first project for the Pocket PC I'm pretty pleased with the result.
Although storage cards are getting cheaper and bigger by the minute I'll look into what's needed for searching compressed data. I won't promise any timelines, but maybe someone can give me a kickstart 
Enjoy this freeware 
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04-26-2004, 11:19 AM
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it might just be me but what files do you copy to the PPC?
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04-26-2004, 11:24 AM
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Pupil
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it might just be me but what files do you copy to the PPC?
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After you download and install WordNet 2.0, go to where you installed it (normally c:\program files\WordNet\2.0) and copy the "dict" folder to your storage card.
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04-26-2004, 11:27 AM
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I thought that was it but when I saw dev resouces in the other folders I became unsure.
Thanks
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04-26-2004, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by darrylb
35Mb! 8O
Even with a 512Mb SD Card, that is alot of space! The other competiting (and not free) dictionaries are ~10Mb. Even this was too much! Is there no compression or anything?
Still free is good 8)
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I suppose that since WordNet was developped for the PC and 35 MB storage is tiny for that platform, they didn't see fit to compress the data.
However since the porting places it in a totally different environment were space is scarce, it could use compression here.
I'll try to see if I can make space fo 35 MB coz this app will be useful to me.
A big thank you Troy for the app :clap: :clap: :clap:
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04-26-2004, 01:09 PM
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FWIW I tried zipping the dict directory on my PC and the resulting file is 10.5 MiB. Compression level 6 (normal) or 9 (maximum) give no significant difference in size (~80KiB) but level 9 is much slower by a factor of 2.
Another example is the noun.exc file that compresses from 40,104 bytes down to 13,467 bytes with an exact same size at compression level 6 or 9.
Thirdly noun.dat reduces from 14.4 MiB down to 4.3 MiB.
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04-26-2004, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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That�s what I have been telling him, he needs to find the way to compress those files and to work with them compressed.
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04-26-2004, 02:12 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Free compress/decompress libraries aren't that hard to find, it's just the huge amount of data and working with it that makes it hard.
A quick way of solving this could be splitting the dictionary to number of smaller pieces, and then decompressing the needed part when it's searched for. It would slow down the searching a little, but then again most of the compression methods do.
It's naturally a whole different issue are you allowed to tamper with the original dictionary file. Maybe if you wrote a utility that would do this automatically to the dictionary file on PPC or desktop computer.
/jizmo
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