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Old 04-16-2004, 08:00 PM
Janak Parekh
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Default An Introduction to Wireless USB

http://deviceforge.com/articles/AT9015145687.html

"Universal serial bus (USB) technology has been a popular connection type for PCs and it's migrating into consumer electronic (CE) and mobile devices. Now this high-speed and effective connection interface is unwiring to provide the functionality of wired USB without the burden of cables. This next iteration of USB technology is the focus of the new Wireless USB Promoter Group, which will define the specifications that will eventually provide standards for the technology."

This DeviceForge article is a good introduction to Wireless USB, what it plans to support, and a look at its consequences. Unsurprisingly, it's all designed around the PC acting as the hub, as Intel wants to protect its PC business. The real question is what wireless standards will be prevalent when WUSB hits the market (it'll be several years, since they're using UWB.) While WUSB, WiFi, and Bluetooth all are competitors to some extent, they do fill different niches: WUSB is a centralized peripheral attachment strategy, WiFi is a LAN networking technology, and Bluetooth is a peer-to-peer device connection technology. While WUSB and Bluetooth are somewhat similar, they also have striking differences, and I think it's too early to tell what effect the two will have on each other.
 
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Old 04-16-2004, 08:27 PM
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Intel information is available. Although they are different, I can easily forsee WUSB replacing Bluetooth as it can do an even better job in low-power consumption. We have already seen PPC devices with USB host capabilities, it would make since to make this wireless (when available). The only question I have not seen answered yet is what is going to be done about security. This is one area where Bluetooth is pretty good at. Can you imagine someone walking up to your WUSB enabled computer with a WUSB enabled keyboard/mouse and taking over your system?
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Old 04-16-2004, 10:30 PM
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There are so many emerging standards to make peripherals work in the wireless world.

WiFi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g) - This directly replaces wired Ethernet and uses a TCP/IP stack typically to send network packets from device to device. It can be used in a peer to peer mode (Adhoc) but both machine need to set manual IP�s and need to be configured to run in a Adhoc mode. An access point can give the machines IP addresses in an AP mode using DHCP. This probably will never be used to connect wireless peripherals to a PDA or laptop. Its advantage is its huge acceptance for wireless networking of PC�s and is supported by many many vendors today.

Bluetooth (IEEE 802.15.1) - This directly replaces wired RS-232 (serial ports). It does have other profiles for things like headsets and speaker phones. Most peripherals on a PDA are serial now including keyboards, GPS units, cell phone data interfaces and many others. This makes it real easy to adapt existing peripherals to Bluetooth today. Another large benefit that Bluetooth is that its been around a couple of years and finally you can go to Best Buy and purchase devices that work today over Bluetooth including PPC�s, Palm�s, keyboards, mice, many cell phones, GPS units and headsets.

Zigbee (IEEE 802.15.4) � This is targeted for wireless embedded designs and short range remote sensors. This is a really new standard that has IEEE approval 802.11.4 but the higher level protocols are still being defined. This standard most likely will not be used for wireless peripherals on consumer devices.

Wireless USB (no IEEE standard) � This is targeted to make standard USB 2.0 devices wireless. Hardwired USB has three speeds 1.5Mb, 12Mb, and 480Mb. 1.5Mb is used for keyboards and mice and joysticks. 12Mb is used for scanners printers and a lot of other general devices. 480Mb is used for external storage and devices that need to pump a lot of data. Cypress is the only company shipping a wireless USB device today. Its speed is 62.5Kb far below the 1.5Mb standard. Intel announced a short while ago they will support devices up to 480Mb. I am sure there will other vendors that will create there own standard. The problem with all these standards is they will never work with each other and are designed not to. Intel can start developing a standard and include it in there chip sets but its going to be many years before we see product. It will be at least three years before you could go to best buy and purchase wireless USB devices that interoperates with each other like Bluetooth does today.

I predict over the years that WiFi will continue to grow for the wireless LAN and will never be used for peripherals. Bluetooth will become more and more popular because it will be in every laptop and PDA in the next three years and will target peripherals that use the 1.5Mb spec of wired USB. Wireless USB will turn into a huge fight over standards and fail.

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Old 04-16-2004, 10:38 PM
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While WUSB and Bluetooth are somewhat similar, they also have striking differences, and I think it's too early to tell what effect the two will have on each other.
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Old 04-16-2004, 11:00 PM
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I predict over the years that WiFi will continue to grow for the wireless LAN and will never be used for peripherals. Bluetooth will become more and more popular because it will be in every laptop and PDA in the next three years and will target peripherals that use the 1.5Mb spec of wired USB. Wireless USB will turn into a huge fight over standards and fail.
Sean, I agree with you. However, we never know what Intel's marketing muscle is capable of!
 
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Old 04-16-2004, 11:13 PM
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Sean, I agree with you. However, we never know what Intel's marketing muscle is capable of!
Intel is not the technical muscle machine everyone thinks.

Intel created the x86 platform and does very well with it.

Intel did not create the StrongARM or XScale architecture used in all our PDA�s, it came from Digital. Digital licensed the ARM core from ARM and ran it at very high speeds. Intel acquired Digital Semi and that technology. :cry:

Intel still does not have a WiFi chip set they use a Cisco�s 802.11 chip set in every Centreno laptop that has the Centreno label. :cry:

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Old 04-16-2004, 11:37 PM
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Sean, I agree with you. However, we never know what Intel's marketing muscle is capable of!
Intel is not the technical muscle machine everyone thinks.
I know they're not the technical muscle, but they by far have the marketing muscle.

For example, to push its horrible Itanium processor, Intel paid big-name developers such as Adobe to write software for the Itanium processor.

Of course, if something's not technically good, it won't succeed, no matter how many dollars are put into it... ie. the Itanium processor.
 
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Old 04-17-2004, 11:23 AM
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If WUSB is going to require 20-page "getting started" documents like bluetooth does i woud rather stick to the wires. Wired connections are way easier to setup and work order of magnitude more reliable than wireless. They have to get it user-friendly and reliable or users will not embrace it.
 
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Old 04-17-2004, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: An Introduction to Wireless USB

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While WUSB and Bluetooth are somewhat similar, they also have striking differences, and I think it's too early to tell what effect the two will have on each other.
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So, between Bluetooth and WUSB, which one would you pick? :wink:
 
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Old 04-17-2004, 01:46 PM
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If WUSB is going to require 20-page "getting started" documents like bluetooth does i woud rather stick to the wires. Wired connections are way easier to setup and work order of magnitude more reliable than wireless. They have to get it user-friendly and reliable or users will not embrace it.
Bluetooth does not require a 20 page getting started book. Once devices are paired you can set them to auto connect when in range and they work just like a wired serial device.

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