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Old 03-30-2004, 10:00 PM
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Default Just When You Thought DRM Protection Schemes Couldn't Get Any Stupider

http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=1080606040

"Published reports have indicated that Microsoft is busy readying a secure clock DRM technology dubbed "Janus." Janus enables songs distributed under a subscription model to be transferred to portable devices, with a built in "time bomb" that enables songs to expire in the event that a customer's subscription lapses."

This is just what I was looking for the other day, a place where I could go and rent some music and worry about whether or not the rental would expire mid-way into my vacation. To make this extra-reliable I am sure it will somehow be tied to PassPort, which I can honestly say is the most trouble free, reliable and user friendly single sign on service Microsoft operates.

"It is unknown whether the same technology will be put to use in the MSN Music service, but Microsoft must still clear the hurdle device synchronization poses. According to Jupiter Research, synchronization is one of the top three features customers look for in portable music players. Microsoft has hinted that it will leverage its software portfolio to tether MSN Music snugly into its product mix."

By leveraging their software portfolio, I wonder if they mean using ActiveSync? For what it is worth, I don't see any mention of this working with Pocket PC or Smartphone devices, despite their support for the Windows Media 9 codecs, something emphasized in this comment: "However, Microsoft hasn't made a strong move to focus its Smartphone or PocketPC software on media devices. Toward that end, it is touting the Portable Media Center, a design for a small handheld device that will store and play audio and video. Versions of this, developed by Creative Technology, will be on the market later this year."

I do think it is bad they are not supporting the millions of mobile devices in our hands right now, but on the other side, I personally would never consider such a rental. I'd sooner use a hardware dongle.
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:04 PM
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Rent music? :huh:

No thanks. I like my CDs - I can rip into any format and still have a physical copy with the artwork. Why would I want to rent?
 
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:25 PM
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Yeah casue when I buy music I only want to keep it for a week :roll:
 
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:45 PM
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The strange thing is I used to be a HUGE Microsoft fan......until I started purchasing PPC's. Slowly but surely they have turned me into an anti-MS person who constantly roots for the DOJ and European Union to tear the company apart. It is inexplicable things like this that make me realize that as a monopoly, MS simply can not be trusted to be even-handed when dealing with the public/consumers.
 
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:53 PM
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Ultimately the market will decide the success or failure of a venture like this. I predict a massive failure. :roll:
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Old 03-30-2004, 11:03 PM
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The strange thing is I used to be a HUGE Microsoft fan......until I started purchasing PPC's. Slowly but surely they have turned me into an anti-MS person ...
That is so right - I feel like I rented my iPAQ 3900 from Compaq, HP, and Microsoft - I can't even find anyone who will let me pay them for a WM2003 SE update...

I think it's sad how the sycophant OEM hardware producers have become lap-dogs of Microsoft. One by one, the amazing engineering companies like Toshiba, HP, and others (scratching my head) have followed the indifference model of customer relations.

Anyone want to rent an iPAQ?
 
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Old 03-30-2004, 11:13 PM
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Default I'M STAYING AWAY FROM MUSIC RELATED MICROSOFT DRM

:evil: I think Jason's right this will be a massive failure. I think it could hurt Microsoft as alot of people may not know what they're agreeing to and when they find out will be hopping mad at Microsoft. Its one thing for them to mess up with DRM and eBooks...its quite another to do it for music consumers have paid for.
 
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Old 03-30-2004, 11:17 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about all this, folks. There will ALWAYS be people creating ways around DRM.

The more they try to overcharge and control us, the more people like me will continue obtaining their work for free, and stripping out the copy protections.

They'll never learn...and they will NEVER win.
 
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Old 03-30-2004, 11:19 PM
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I think it's sad how the sycophant OEM hardware producers have become lap-dogs of Microsoft. One by one, the amazing engineering companies like Toshiba, HP, and others (scratching my head) have followed the indifference model of customer relations.
I find it interesting that you're blaming Microsoft for the way HP and Toshiba are acting. Microsoft releases the OS upgrade to the OEMs, and they're the ones that decide if they should sell it to customers or not - Microsoft has nothing to do with it, largely because the OEMs say "This is OUR customer Microsfot, back off!".

Methinks your anger is mis-directed. :?
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Old 03-30-2004, 11:22 PM
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Are we missing the dark underbelly of this concept? It they can arrange to "rent" you a song, then Microsoft can also accomplish it long term goal of renting you an Operating System.

Picture this: You buy your flashy new PPC with 2006. A few months later you turn it on one morning and get a Blue Screen with the message:

NO OPERATING SYSTEM DETECTED. YOUR LICENSE MAY HAVE EXPIRED.

Contact Microsoft to procure an extension of your Windows Mobile license
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You know this is where Uncle Bill has always wanted to go.
 
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