Windows Phone Thoughts - Daily News, Views, Rants and Raves

Check out the hottest Windows Mobile devices at our Expansys store!


Digital Home Thoughts

Loading feed...

Laptop Thoughts

Loading feed...

Android Thoughts

Loading feed...




Go Back   Thoughts Media Forums > WINDOWS PHONE THOUGHTS > Windows Phone Competition

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:00 AM
Ed Hansberry
Contributing Editor Emeritus
Ed Hansberry's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,228
Default Dig Into Palm OS 6

http://www.palmos.com/dev/dl/dl_tool...tor/index.html

If you are willing to register as a developer, you can download the Palm OS 6 emulator. One of the comments I've heard is OS 6 still doesn't have true multitasking. On a Pocket PC, you can open a contact, start filling in the form, then switch to another app and switch back to the contact form to continue entry. This is especially useful if that other app contains the contact info you are getting, like an email.

According to this PalmInfoCenter comment from hotpaw4, who was at the Palm Dev Conference, clarifies this. Unless the app is specifically written to save the app state, it won't allow you to switch back and forth.

I'm sorry guys, but that isn't multitasking. Say what you want about the Pocket PC, I can take a 5 year old ARM application that was written for the Jornada 820 and ignoring the messed up UI that was designed for a 640X480 HPC Pro screen, it will still work (assuming it isn't looking for specific HPC APIs) on a modern Pocket PC and multitask just fine. I've done it on a 2002 device with the old HPC Terminal Server client before Microsoft released a downloadable client for the 2002 upgraded devices. This whole deal of a background thread that will allow email to still download but you have to relaunch the email UI (thus closing whatever you are in now) is going to be... sigh. I give up. Palm has been on this road that they have the ultimate paradigm and for some reason, they are incapable of either admitting that multitasking in today's connected society is a necessity or incapable of developing a true multitasking OS without starting from ground zero and discarding their old application base. Before anyone jumps on me for ranting, look at the market share numbers. Pocket PC and Windows Mobile is a much larger share of the market today than they were then the iPAQ 3600 was originally released in 2000. That means someone else is losing share.

It has also been reported that OS 6 still doesn't allow you to assign more than one category to a record :roll:, and those of you with a Tungsten T3 may be a bit disappointed with the PIM apps. They are more advanced than OS5 but not quite as advanced as the T3 customizations PalmOne did.

I've also seen comments about the very slow startup of the OS. Be realistic though. You should never to performance tests on an emulator. I've got to believe that OS6 devices will be at least as fast as OS5 devices.

Anyway, I thought some of you would be very interested in playing with this.

Oh yeah. Dave Beauvais sent me this link advertising a PDA, which will probably be gone in a few days. Notice that device in the lower right corner? It has a picture on the screen. That must be what the Zire wants to be when it grows up. An iPAQ. :lol:

__________________
text sig
 
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:06 AM
Mitch D
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 602

Now if that isn't a advertising fubar I have no idea what one is. Maybe that could be Palmone's new ad slogan... "What we want to be when we grow up..."

Hey what can I say, it an :idea:
 
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:11 AM
fletch
Pupil
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 38

Holy cra*p! no multitasking still?

this means that Palm devices are literally being 'out-featured' by cellphones. What a waste.

They must be having a total brain freeze over there.
 
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:25 AM
Ben Stark
Pupil
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 18

Sad indeed. MS is coming out with dynamic landscape soon as well. The gap is widening ever faster. WTF is Palm thinking. :roll:
 
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:28 AM
johncruise
Theorist
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 275
Send a message via MSN to johncruise
Default Re: Dig Into Palm OS 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Notice that device in the lower right corner? It has a picture on the screen. That must be what the Zire wants to be when it grows up. An iPAQ. :lol:

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahahaha

Uhurmm... Ehem....

hahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha

(10 seconds of silence)

Hahahahahahaha
hahahahaha

Man... those guys who makes this kinds of advertisement posters really cracks me up! Maybe it's really a video that shows what the device can't do on a PalmOS. Or a CompUSA propaganda to tease this new owners to go back to their store and buy a Pocket PC device ;-) ;-)

Hahahahahaha
__________________
John Cruz
 
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:33 AM
entropy1980
Oracle
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 864

Here's a real good interview and insight about everything that went into OS 6 should explain and clear up a lot....

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6148
 
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:33 AM
ombu
Theorist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 263

No multitasking, no multiple categories for an item, yep, Palm OS 6 is a killer :twisted: .

BTW, beyond a lot of wishes we all have for WM2004 or WM2003 SP1 I would like to add one, 'AND' filtering categories, that'd be powerful.

Regards.
__________________
MacBook Pro 2.53-250-4. iPhone 3G-8
 
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:36 AM
dean_shan
Mystic
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,911

Wow how can one still buy a Palm when there is no multi-tasking. How come a brand-new 2004 palm device cannot do what a 1994 newton could do?
 
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:46 AM
yslee
Thinker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 451

More bashing. :roll: At this rate I won't be suprised to see Partita/Inktoo/Ska's postings on the front page.
 
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-02-2004, 04:48 AM
Mitch D
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 602

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Stark
Sad indeed. MS is coming out with dynamic landscape soon as well. The gap is widening ever faster. WTF is Palm thinking. :roll:
I can't help but wonder if this lack of true multitasking is a sign of the real limitation of the Palm OS. They have come out with some really good units like the T3, the Tungsten C as well as the Sony's UX50, but the OS does nothing to improve the operation of these devices. I would have thought with thier takeover of BEOS a few years back that they would have come out with a real rocking OS by now.

BEos was one of the first "Open Source" operating systems that I tried and liked. It was user friendly, easy to use and really didn't take up alot of space on a hard drive. Heck I have BEOS loaded on my old Compaq laptop and it's fun to play around with when I am annoyed with Windows.

Well this lack of innovation by Palm is what made me come over from the "dark" side.
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:13 PM.