10-19-2003, 04:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Use WM Recorder To Record Windows Media Audio/Video
http://www.wmrecorder.com/index_pocketpc.php
If you have ever had a webcast you would prefer to listen to on your Pocket PC at your convenience rather than be forced to listen to it when you are near a broadband connection, WM Recorder might be the application for you.
"WM Recorder is a revolutionary new way to record Windows Media� video and audio streams to watch on your Pocket PC or laptop. No internet connection required!"
This app might be just the ticket for me. I have a 2 hour weekly radio broadcast I like to listen to but it is right in the middle of the work day on Tuesdays and I just can't take the time out of my day to listen. I usually wind up paying $3 for the MP3 compilation later in the week and listening to it in the car from my Pocket PC.
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10-19-2003, 04:45 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Pretty usefull tool but i miss the ability to automatically cut the stream every new id tag "� la" StreamRipper32 (which is limited to mp3 streams). Moreover, the ripped stream is often buggy when played back on my pocketpc although it's ok on the desktop. Maybe i need to verify some option. Otherwise, having nearly half-size files with nearly the same quality as mp3 files is always good when you don't have monstruous storage cards.
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10-19-2003, 04:54 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 23
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totalrecorder is your solution
http://www.highcriteria.com/
You can catch ANY audio stream to MP3, split it eight-ways to Sunday, encode to any quality you like, and even schedule recording times (pretty much unlimited # of schedules).
I`ve tried other encoding/stream ripping apps and I`ve always found them to be lacking in some way. TotalRecorder has NEVER let me down.
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10-19-2003, 06:21 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 36
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Well this is pretty cool, but i would have to get a bigger storage card if i wanted to put it to use.
P.S. I guess I forgot about the different time zones so I was sleeping while people were posting, thus ending my first post challange.
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10-19-2003, 07:36 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 797
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Ah, but Troy, it also captures video. Total Recorder is limited to audio.
I use it to put content on my site or to save an interesting video to show someone else later. Total Recorder is great for audio, but doesn't do anything else.
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10-19-2003, 07:38 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 430
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So does it allow for scheduling? Also, what about real media clips. Can you record those too?
How does it record - based on the analogue sound after conversion or by reassembling the digital bits on arrival from the net?
Thanks
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10-20-2003, 02:54 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 159
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Darrylb, why would you ever want RM clips (shudder)? At any rate, Real Media is very careful to shoot anything down that infringes on their copyrights so the only way is DIY (only for master techs). Which brings up an interesting point in the never-ending discussion on copyright ethics. Ed when you pay $3 for the MP3, doesn't all or some of that money go to the person who creates the show? Being able to record someone else's creative work is wonderful - but if they wanted you to have the access, they wouldn't have locked the file and you could save whatever you streamed to disk.
For instance, many small bands stream locked files to let people hear their work so that some listeners will go on to buy it. There is no way for them to make money if you defeat their locks by recording the stream. Since all artists need to promote their work yet still make a living - it seems these programs are one more nail in the coffin of artists being able to earn a living in the digital age. Kinda strange when you think about it. These programs are coming from a guy who originally was trying to make a living by selling content!
BTW- human nature being what it is, I am pretty much thinking that government has to intercede very soon. Either all artists get paid by the government (tax-payers) to turn their work over to the public or someone HAS to figure out a way for all people whose work can be distributed without permission to get paid for their work. It is very clear to me that no one in the world can protect a digital file. Ultimately, that means the only protection creatives have is the good will and honesty of the people who use their work.
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10-20-2003, 06:57 AM
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Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Originally Posted by TomB
Darrylb, why would you ever want RM clips (shudder)? At any rate, Real Media is very careful to shoot anything down that infringes on their copyrights so the only way is DIY (only for master techs). Which brings up an interesting point in the never-ending discussion on copyright ethics. Ed when you pay $3 for the MP3, doesn't all or some of that money go to the person who creates the show? Being able to record someone else's creative work is wonderful - but if they wanted you to have the access, they wouldn't have locked the file and you could save whatever you streamed to disk.
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There are some places where they might stream something over the net (e.g. a broadcast or somethig) but also offer it to download (but not for free), so they might broadcast in RM, but offer the download in MP3. The issue of copyright is interesting. If it is a "radio" broadcast, presumably they dont have a problem with people taping the show (or do they). If it is therefore a RM broadcast, why not anticipate that people can record the streamed data to disk using CoolEdit or something like that?
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10-20-2003, 09:18 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Originally Posted by darrylb
So does it allow for scheduling?
How does it record - based on the analogue sound after conversion or by reassembling the digital bits on arrival from the net?
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WM Recorder records by capturing the stream, and making a WMV or WMA file on your PC. This is the only way to do video. It works great for audio, too.
As far as scheduling goes, we are working on a VCR-like add-on, which should be available in a couple of weeks.
Also, if you're just into Radio, use our Replay Radio product. This one has a built-in scheduler, and records audio in all flavors, including Real, Shoutcast, etc. There's also a Pocket PC add-on for Replay Radio as well that lets you skip over the ads, like a TiVo.
You can learn more about Replay Radio here:
http://www.replay-radio.com
Best Regards,
Bill Dettering
Applian Technologies Inc.
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10-20-2003, 01:05 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 159
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"If it is a "radio" broadcast, presumably they dont have a problem with people taping the show "
Sorry, boardcasters (TV and radio) pay every time they use a piece of music. That's the way it has been for 80 years in the USA. In fact, many netcasters had to shut down last year when a court determined that re-broadcasts over the net were just that and broadcasters had to pay a bit under three cents per song per stream! Normally commercials pay for the use of music, but in this case a one hour program with 10,000 users and ten songs could cost thousands more then the over-the-air broadcast. To have people breaking the "locks" on those streams with programs like Bill's made things even worse. Thus my original post. If programs like the ones mentioned here keep allowing the general public access to copyrighted works without payment - forget the RIAA - any artist, filmmaker and/or writer's means of earning a living is at risk. Since about ten million people in the USA earn their livings and pay taxes as creatives, we don't want to think about what would happen to the economy if this goes unchecked. That would be like the entire City of New York being cut from the tax rolls and going on unemployment!
BTW - since the only streams you would need these programs for are the locked streams you can't save to disk (copy protected), these programs violate the DMCA - so get 'em while you can. Oh, and make sure you don't go Googling for cracked versions of Bill's work! It would be extreme irony if people started taking the programs without paying that let them take music and video without paying! 
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