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Old 10-07-2003, 07:00 PM
Ed Hansberry
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Default Stupid Copy Protection Tricks

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/

"MediaMax CD3 is a new copy-prevention technique from SunnComm Technologies that is designed to prevent unauthorized copying of audio CDs using personal computers. SunnComm claims its product facilitates "a verifiable and commendable level of security," but in tests on a newly-released album, I find that the protections may have no effect on a large fraction of deployed PCs, and that most users who would be affected can bypass the system entirely by holding the shift key every time they insert the CD."

:rotfl: This is even less effort than using a marker to foil Sony's copy protection scheme. I've begun focusing my purchasing efforts on music from independent artists anyway which are much more inclinded to give you good music and never try to tick off the consumer with copy protection schemes.
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Old 10-07-2003, 07:42 PM
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I still say that RoadRunner's Rhapsody program and others like it are the way to go. Just last night my daughter and I learned about a violin player who recorded a CD using a very rare violin. We found the CD on Rhapsody and paid $0.79 per track to download and burn the songs.

It's legal, it's easy and everybody's happy.
 
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Old 10-07-2003, 07:43 PM
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How long until the studios realise that a CD that cant be played, can't be copied
 
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Old 10-07-2003, 07:46 PM
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How long until the studios realise that a CD that cant be played, can't be copied
As soon as they can figure out how to charge you for every time you listen to a song, and there's no such thing as ownership anymore.
 
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Old 10-07-2003, 08:08 PM
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EMI have been taken to court in France over defective copy -protected music CD's

You can read about it at http://www.securityfocus.com/news/6866
 
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Old 10-07-2003, 08:47 PM
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I still say that RoadRunner's Rhapsody program and others like it are the way to go. Just last night my daughter and I leaned about a violin player who recorded a CD using a very rare violin. We found the CD on Rhapsody and paid $0.79 per track to download and burn the songs.

It's legal, it's easy and everybody's happy.
I subscribe to realone rhapsody, and its quite a pain to get a song onto your pocketpc. First you have to burn it, then rip it (in a different program) and now you have one cd with only one song on it. Kazaa is *much* easier. I also used MSN digital download service... also quite bad. Bad interface, songs are expensive (0.99 p per song for the old ones, �1.99 for the latest) and the selection is poor. Also if you do a temp download you can not play that song on your pocketpc. Whats up with that. If apple can integrate their devices, why can microsoft do something as simple.

Ive only given up on kazaa because all those american law suits (I'm in UK) have scared the pants of my wife (who could before not have cared less). Ive always actually felt quite guilty about downloading music, and have been subscribing to rhapsody since it came out, and also to the music-match service (I pretended to be american ) Having experience with all these services, i can definitely say noting can hold a candle to Kazaa (lite of course) for selection and ease of use.

Having said all that, the selection and service has been improving in recent months, so maybe the future will be better. One can only hope...

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Old 10-07-2003, 08:55 PM
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What I fail to understand is how the music companies seem to think that they can fight against music that is free, and more importantly, easy and versatile, with a product that is overpriced as well as by its own design makes it difficult to use in the way the customer wants to use it.

The way I see it, they should be either making cd's less than free (give them away free with free money included in the case) or making them a better value (easier to use in the ways customers want to use them). CDs already SOUND better than mp3s, that is why I've continued to buy them. But I will not own anything that is going to frell up my computer, or possibly freek out any of my players.

I mean, are these going to play on an Amiga?
 
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Old 10-07-2003, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Stupid Copy Protection Tricks

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... bypass the system entirely by holding the shift key every time they insert the CD."
Be careful! Isn't it illegal to publish how to circumvent a copy protection method? :lol: :lol:
 
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Old 10-07-2003, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Stupid Copy Protection Tricks

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
... bypass the system entirely by holding the shift key every time they insert the CD."
Be careful! Isn't it illegal to publish how to circumvent a copy protection method? :lol: :lol:
Actually it is.
Don't worry, I've already notified the RIAA. :robot: :robot: :robot:
 
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Old 10-07-2003, 10:02 PM
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I read something interesting. What if you turn music into something like Hallmark? Sell them as gifts, like with cards for birthdays, etc. Let them download music. If it can be that buying CDs is more "romantic" than just burning one, you'll more likely still be able to live and not go out of business.
 
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