08-01-2003, 01:00 PM
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Executive Editor
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Operating Systems are Not Free
This is just some food for thought for those of you who were arguing that it was ok to hack the Dell ROM update to get a free copy of Windows Mobile 2003. I've just confirmed with a contact at Microsoft that Dell does in fact pay a licensing fee for every copy of the upgrade that they sell, so if you hack the ROM update because you think it should be free anyway, give your head a shake.
:bangin:
And for those of you who ordered a copy of the upgrade and are patiently waiting for it (like I am), good on 'ya! :wink:
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08-01-2003, 01:15 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 366
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Re: Operating Systems are Not Free
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
...if you hack the ROM update because you think it should be free anyway, give your head a shake.
:bangin:
And for those of you who ordered a copy of the upgrade and are patiently waiting for it (like I am), good on 'ya! :wink:
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Well said and thanks for the confirmation. I have to be honest (full disclosure: I orded the CD upgrade and am waiting patiently): what's the big rush for folks anyway? Why the need to try and upgrade if you've already ordered? If you didn't order and tried to upgrade, what is your justification?
The way I see it: I have a perfectly good Dell Axim with a perfectly good OS (PPC2002). No need to rush and upgrade before the OEM is ready and DEFINITELY no need to try and take it for free...
I think what people fail to realize is that actions like these end up costing all of us more in the long run.....
KCT
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08-01-2003, 01:26 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 221
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Re: Operating Systems are Not Free
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
This is just some food for thought for those of you who were arguing that it was ok to hack the Dell ROM update to get a free copy of Windows Mobile 2003. I've just confirmed with a contact at Microsoft that Dell does in fact pay a licensing fee for every copy of the upgrade that they sell, so if you hack the ROM update because you think it should be free anyway, give your head a shake.
:bangin:
And for those of you who ordered a copy of the upgrade and are patiently waiting for it (like I am), good on 'ya! :wink:
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Hardly suprising, really, it doesn't make sense for MS to charge any other way.
Bad hackers, bad, bad! 
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08-01-2003, 01:34 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 76
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True true.. and at least Windows Mobile 2003 is cheap. Compare that $29.00 to a copy of Windows XP.. yikes!!! Also.. that upgrade includes Office.. now if that was only the case with Office 2003 (well maybe, its not offically out yet - but I doubt it).
But still, understand some people want the newest and best right now... I surely ordered my iPaq in advance and was very excitied when it came in the brown truck.
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08-01-2003, 01:49 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 164
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I used to have this tremendous need to be on the cutting edge. As the years went by, though, that need got less and less. Is it age-related?
I remember trying to install OS2.1 many years ago, and damn-near went berserk in the process. Just because it was different. And potentially cool. During college, friends would get betas of OS software that I'd try to use, and in most cases it just caused serious problems, but I had to be on that edge.
I still get the urge, but it's nowhere near being large enough to be persuasive. There is a certain zen in waiting for things to develop and evolve naturally.
*Phil
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08-01-2003, 01:53 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 29
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I am the same way now with all my computing devices, both Laptop and PPC. I USUALLY wait until code is final before making the plunge now. So many reinstalls after test stuff bombed my systems. :?
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08-01-2003, 02:17 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 31
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Originally Posted by dangerwit
I used to have this tremendous need to be on the cutting edge. As the years went by, though, that need got less and less. Is it age-related?
I remember trying to install OS2.1 many years ago, and damn-near went berserk in the process. Just because it was different. And potentially cool. During college, friends would get betas of OS software that I'd try to use, and in most cases it just caused serious problems, but I had to be on that edge.
I still get the urge, but it's nowhere near being large enough to be persuasive. There is a certain zen in waiting for things to develop and evolve naturally.
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talk about memory lane.....I started testing 0S/2 2.1 for the company I worked for....i did go crazy....took alot of beer to get over of it...if my memory serves me correctly, our company was running a twisted-pair print sharing net. OS/2 would not support printing without a full 25 pin signal (or something like that) I remember i ended up calling all over IBM land to find that out....only 2 months later,.... not too long after that I ended up being part of the original core beta testers for 95. WHAT A Difference. Now look at our lives!!!
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08-01-2003, 02:21 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 19
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08-01-2003, 02:27 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 238
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Lemmings jumping of the cliff
I know it's the pot calling the kettle black (since I already have a Windows Mobile 2003 iPAQ - call me a technology masochist!), but it is kinda funny to see people so eager to dive into this new OS, despite the fact that there are numerous reported bug issues as well as a (still) pretty good list of apps that won't cooperate with the new OS!
We're like lemmings, jumping off the cliff! :roll:
But, I'll say it's a shame - given the opportunity to steal (and not get caught), many many people will do it, and the internet is affording all sorts of people to do just that. The ironic thing is, somehow, people do not think that stealing things via the internet is the same as shoplifting in a store. They rationalize that it's okay because everyone else is doing it...
It reveals a dark side to our psyche.... :twisted:
Matt
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08-01-2003, 02:45 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 541
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Jason: While I understand your message, the way you said it didn't exactly add up. Your reasoning to not pirate was because Dell pays a licence each time they sell. By hacking it out of a ROM update like this, one could say your saving Dell the licence fees, thus saving Dell money!
Just say "because it's copyright infringment" and be over with it :P
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Other than that, they should've learned from Apple's OS X upgrade CDs. Hell, they should only just include updated files in the first place. One of the first rules of security (probably paraphrased and butchered, but it works here, dammit! :P): You can't trust the user.
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