07-10-2003, 10:00 PM
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Is Your 2215 Sluggish When You Turn It On?
When I got my 2215, it was incredibly fast but as always, things seemed to slow down just a bit as I loaded applications on it. One area in particular that was frustrating was powering on. It would often take 2-3 seconds for the device to be usable. Once on, it was fast, but that "resume" time was getting to be a real frustration.
I mentioned this to another Mobile MVP, Jared Miniman and he said his 2215 didn't exhibit this behavior but he recalled an experience he had with a Toshiba e700 series. He suggested I remove my CF card and see if that helped. Boy, did it ever! Now the device powers up just as fast as the day I bought it. Apparently there is something either in the Windows CE OS or some implementations of CF drivers that when resuming can take some extra time. Leaving my SD card in has caused no such problems. My Jornada 565 doesn't exhibit this behavior, nor did any previous iPAQs with the CF sleeve in place, but this may be unique to dual slot devices. I'll need to do some testing with my Axim. Fortunately for me, my biggest card is the SD card and I only use my CF memory card for music, so leaving it out is no big deal.
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07-10-2003, 10:18 PM
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Sage
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Mine takes slightly less than a second to power up without my 128 MB CF card, a little more than a second with it. It's really too close to notice unless you time it, and then it's still too close to be sure there's a difference. Definately not 2-3 seconds like you are seeing. How big is your CF card?
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07-10-2003, 10:21 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: May 2004
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Mine takes 2 secs with a CF card in it..
My axim took like 5 seconds.. IMPROVEMENT FOR ME IM HAPPY! :lol:
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07-10-2003, 10:21 PM
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Mystic
Join Date: Jul 2003
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I wonder if there is a difference between CF peripherals vs CF storage cards. If there is no difference, that would indicate a CF problem in general, but if storage only cards affect performance, it could be a case of the OS looking into the CF card for files, such as applications, My Document folder, etc.
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07-10-2003, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Dodd
Mine takes slightly less than a second to power up without my 128 MB CF card, a little more than a second with it. It's really too close to notice unless you time it, and then it's still too close to be sure there's a difference. Definately not 2-3 seconds like you are seeing. How big is your CF card?
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256MB Kingston. I need to test this some more. I have a few 128MBs lying around at home. My SD is 512MB. Still, this 256MB didn't have any effect on my 3970 with the CF sleeve in place.
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07-10-2003, 10:23 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jul 2003
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3900, a 32MB SD card, a 512MB CF card, and another 256MB CF card (or WiFi) when I turn it on, and the speed is fine.
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07-10-2003, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnoB
I wonder if there is a difference between CF peripherals vs CF storage cards. If there is no difference, that would indicate a CF problem in general, but if storage only cards affect performance, it could be a case of the OS looking into the CF card for files, such as applications, My Document folder, etc.
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Good point. It is snappy as always when my CF Socket WiFi card is in and powering on. However, right now my CF only has 55 files and 15 folders.
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07-10-2003, 10:29 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Feb 2004
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One thing I've noticed is that if you power up and right away tap on the connection icon in the title bar (to direct dial GPRS via Bluetooth for instance), it stalls for about 5 seconds then the bubble pops up and says something about needing to setup a new connection.
If you click "Hide" and tap the icon again right away, it gives you your standard connection option, in my case it lets me dial GPRS via Bluetooth.
Since often times the first thing I do is connect to GPRS when I power up the device, this pause is even worse than sluggish performance for a few seconds.
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07-10-2003, 10:30 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Good point. It is snappy as always when my CF Socket WiFi card is in and powering on. However, right now my CF only has 55 files and 15 folders.
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I don't have a CF slot (I currently have a 1910 - 2210 here on Monday ) so I dont have this problem. But I am wondering....is it possible that the driver or OS is scanning the drive for files? What about a MP3 player, MS READER or a photo program that is scanning your card at start up looking for files?
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07-10-2003, 10:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Programmer
I don't have a CF slot (I currently have a 1910 - 2210 here on Monday ) so I dont have this problem. But I am wondering....is it possible that the driver or OS is scanning the drive for files? What about a MP3 player, MS READER or a photo program that is scanning your card at start up looking for files?
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No, I can easily replicate after doing a soft reset, letting it turn off then turning it back on.
Wes - you are just a mobile stud. The rest of us are content to wait for radio stacks to come online. :wink:
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