06-04-2003, 10:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
http://www.conduits.com/products/artist/
Conduits has updated their popular graphics program Pocket Artist. I've been playing with this since last summer and really enjoy it though I am about as far from an artist as you can get.
Lone Post by Peter Reilly, created with Pocket Aritst
New features include:
� Antialiased degree-adjustable rotation, scaling tool
� Photo tools
� Improved memory usage
� Redesigned menu interface
� Added filters
� Hue/Saturation adjustment
� Grain reduction tools
� Red-eye tool
� And more!
They also seem to have removed the "Exit" option from the menu. :evil: That is the second software update I have put on this week that removed "Exit." It is $49.95 for new users, $19.95 for version 1.0 or 1.2 Pocket Artist users or free for existing 2.x users. There is a 30 day trial available.
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06-04-2003, 10:11 PM
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Executive Editor
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Re: Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
They also seem to have removed the "Exit" option from the menu. :evil: That is the second software update I have put on this week that removed "Exit."
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Totally off-topic, but I'm willing to bet this is because they want to get certified, and no certified app can have an exit option, which sucks. Just get Pocket Plus and forget about it. :wink:
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06-04-2003, 10:16 PM
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Re: Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
Totally off-topic, but I'm willing to bet this is because they want to get certified, and no certified app can have an exit option, which sucks. Just get Pocket Plus and forget about it. :wink:
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I have that.  This is a great app, and I don't want to detract from its release, but an app that takes up 1.7MB+ with no images loaded should be able to be closed by the average person.
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06-04-2003, 10:23 PM
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Executive Editor
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Re: Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
...but an app that takes up 1.7MB+ with no images loaded should be able to be closed by the average person.
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I agree completely. The real problem here is the fact that Microsoft's application certification REQUIRES that there be no visible means of closing a program. <sigh> :roll:
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06-04-2003, 10:29 PM
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Intellectual
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Ctrl-Q
True, we had to redesign the menu in order to get certified. You also cannot have a "File" menu in your application (forcing us to rename two menu items, File is now Image, and Image is now Adjust).
As with most logo certified (and Microsoft) applications, Ctrl-Q will exit the application.
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06-05-2003, 02:26 AM
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Pontificator
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True, we had to redesign the menu in order to get certified. You also cannot have a "File" menu in your application
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That is dumb. Dumber even than the lack of provision of an x=close button in PPC OS to begin with. Making programers remove 'Exit' to be certified is... well, dumb (I repeat for emphasis)!
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06-05-2003, 03:53 AM
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Re: Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
I agree completely. The real problem here is the fact that Microsoft's application certification REQUIRES that there be no visible means of closing a program. <sigh> :roll:
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Umm...why? That completely defies logic.
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06-05-2003, 03:59 AM
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5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
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Re: Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
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Originally Posted by felixdd
Umm...why? That completely defies logic.
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Microsoft doesn't want you to ever quit a program. Quitting a program might mean that you're dissatisfied with it. Which would be bad. Microsoft wants you to be happy. So if you cannot leave the program, you must be having a good time with it. Therefore, your computing experience is improved by not having an "Exit". An exit is for weenies anyway. You don't want to be a weenie do you? Stop complaining and enjoy the program. Without exiting. Ever.
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06-05-2003, 05:38 AM
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Intellectual
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Re: Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
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Originally Posted by felixdd
Umm...why? That completely defies logic.
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Properly written applications will cause the operating system to close applications in the background when more memory is required. Unfortunately, not many apps are written properly in this regard.
It's a bit like Windows 9x had a poor stability reputation, but it was mostly due to poorly written drivers. Likewise, the automatic memory allocation and program shutdown in Pocket PC would work well if all developers did it right.
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06-05-2003, 06:03 AM
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5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
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Re: Pocket Artist 2.6 Released
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Originally Posted by Marc Zimmermann
Properly written applications will cause the operating system to close applications in the background when more memory is required. Unfortunately, not many apps are written properly in this regard.
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I'm sorry - I like my explanation better. 
That does make sense, but they certainly don't make that obvious for newbie programmers. I'm not sure where in the docs (perhaps the certification docs?) it explains this, but it's the first time I've heard it.
Personally, I like to have more explicit control. I don't like my OS deciding what should and should not stay open for me...
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