05-08-2003, 08:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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Securing Wireless LANs
Microsoft has created a package that will help system administrators secure their wireless LANs. It is a self-extracting zip file with several PDF documents, batch files, VB Script files, Excel spreadsheets and a few other goodies to help with the task. The full package is over 6MB. You can download it here.
On my home system, I just enable WEP and keep the ceiling fans going to provide some extra scrambling of the air waves. :lol:
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05-08-2003, 08:12 PM
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Thinker
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Re: Securing Wireless LANs
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Microsoft has created a package that will help system administrators secure their wireless LANs.
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I'm of the opinion MicroSloth should learn how to secure their own goods before handing down this type of advice to the masses.
Color me cynical...
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05-08-2003, 08:21 PM
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Ponderer
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I agree with you on that... Also how hard can it really be to secure your AP??? Most of it is common sense and the rest is in the manual and on google seraches.
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05-08-2003, 08:21 PM
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Just because microsoft doesn't practice what they preach doesn't mean what they're preaching is off the mark, it just means I won't buy any of their products to "do it for me"
I think I'll take a look at this at home, but I don't exactly live in a "high-risk" area.. this is probably more for business sys-admins?
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05-08-2003, 08:23 PM
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Re: Securing Wireless LANs
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Originally Posted by trachy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Microsoft has created a package that will help system administrators secure their wireless LANs.
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I'm of the opinion MicroSloth should learn how to secure their own goods before handing down this type of advice to the masses.
Color me cynical...
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MS has unsecure WLANs at their office? I hadn't realized that.
Also, most of the bugs/worms that hit MS corporate are from MS employees not applying MS patches. They got totally hammered by slammer because people were throwing up SQL Server 2000 or the MDSE on machines and not applying 9 month old patches. Now, if you want to talk bugs.....
So far this year MS has released 17 security related patches. Sun? 33. Redhat? 57. OpenBSD? 7.
I'd say MS is certianly not the worst out there and has one of the better track records. In fact, Redhat has released nearly as many security patches for Shrike (RH-9) since March 31 (16 fixes) that MS has since Jan 1 for Windows 98/ME/NT4/XP/2K combined. https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh9-errata-security.html
Color me sick of the baseless slams on MS because they are the big guy on the block and fun to pick on.
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05-08-2003, 08:31 PM
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Since I'm on OS X from January 2003, I've gone to 10.2.4, 10.2.5 and now 10.2.6. It seems MS is not alone in applying fixes to cool OSes. I'm so glad that I don't let the coolness of the Unix based OS X or the standardized fun of Win XP get in the way of me enjoying both OSes without having prejudices against one or the other company.
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05-08-2003, 08:33 PM
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Thinker
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Re: Securing Wireless LANs
[quote="Ed Hansberry"][quote="trachy"]
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Color me sick of the baseless slams on MS because they are the big guy on the block and fun to pick on.
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I second that motion! :bangin:
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05-08-2003, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Securing Wireless LANs
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
On my home system, I just enable WEP and keep the ceiling fans going to provide some extra scrambling of the air waves. :lol:
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I have a few questions about the fan scrambling...
1) Does that really work? :twak:
2) Does the fan have to be in the room or over the router? :bangin:
3) Does the speed of the fan make a difference? :silly:
4) In the summer, when the room tempature rises, will the lighter packets float with the warmer air packets?
Would that be considered hieghtened security? :scatter:
5) Does your fan have to be XP compatible? :deal:
Joe...
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05-08-2003, 08:57 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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duh!!
fans only work if you are using one of those antenna extenders made a chunk of wire and a soup can.
dave
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05-08-2003, 09:29 PM
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I have WEP set to its highest level, MAC address filtering turned on, and a firewall on each system.
Its by no means foolproof. In a perfect world I would like to get Kerberos setup but I have a serious lack of knowledge when it comes to setting up encryption in the NOS and on the desktop side of things. :? Gotta break out the tech books.
Its kinda pointless, but fun, since I highly doubt someone is going to spend more then 60 seconds getting into my network. Its not like I'm hiding those REAL alien autopsy films on my server. 0X :wink: Still it would be something I would like to learn how to setup if for no other reason then W?BIC!
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