04-22-2003, 01:34 PM
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NTT DoCoMo To Release an "HPC"?
It seems the HPC-sized units aren't entirely dead. NTT DoCoMo is apparently going to (or already has) released this unit, with a 400MHz processor, 800x600 display, 64MB RAM, CF II + SDIO, and presumably some built-in wireless (the specs are here, but I can't make heads or tails of them -- and neither can the Japanese-to-English translators I tried -- can someone help out?). Slick! Of course, the chances of seeing this in North America are probably the same as the chances of seeing a NEXiO. :cry:
(A English translation of this article is available here, thanks to :google:.)
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04-22-2003, 02:04 PM
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Intellectual
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aside from a slight price difference (could be diff of $600..who knows) why would anyone choose this over a Tablet PC?
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04-22-2003, 02:11 PM
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Lots of reasons! The main motivation behind Tablet PCs is reasonably full-scale handheld computing. No laps required. Well, HPCs are very much the same idea, but cater to typists rather than writers. They also have the usual WinCE benefits over laptops like battery life, instant on, stability, and sturdiness--no moving parts.
This one looks like a DREAM - but, very sadly, it's simply too big. I think that handhelds really only have an advantage over laptops and tablets if they're either substantially less expensive, or if they're very small. If I ever get another handheld, it'll be no bigger than the Jornada 720 was. Man, that thing was sweet.
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04-22-2003, 02:12 PM
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04-22-2003, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dbrahms
aside from a slight price difference (could be diff of $600..who knows) why would anyone choose this over a Tablet PC?
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Compare to a TPC the HPC is
Small
light
No boot
Better battery life spam
Easy to Use
Well I do think that the TPC is an amazing stuff, but I don't see in my way to use PC or PPC, the needs of a TPC, a ANOTO BT PEN ok but a TPC...
Anyway I may change my mind when TPC will be smaller lighter better battery life spam, quick boot and cheaper... 
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04-22-2003, 02:14 PM
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Intellectual
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Originally Posted by Skoobouy
Lots of reasons! The main motivation behind Tablet PCs is reasonably full-scale handheld computing. No laps required. Well, HPCs are very much the same idea, but cater to typists rather than writers. They also have the usual WinCE benefits over laptops like battery life, instant on, stability, and sturdiness--no moving parts.
This one looks like a DREAM - but, very sadly, it's simply too big. I think that handhelds really only have an advantage over laptops and tablets if they're either substantially less expensive, or if they're very small. If I ever get another handheld, it'll be no bigger than the Jornada 720 was. Man, that thing was sweet.
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I'm just sick of trying to find software for these little devices. I know everything is made for a full operating system like XP, 2000 etc...I dont think I'm buying into ce.net
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04-22-2003, 02:56 PM
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Intellectual
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This is *not* a Handheld PC. Handheld PC was a platform based on Windows CE, but there's apparently no further development being done at Microsoft.
Windows CE, the core operating system, itself now contains most of what defined the HPC experience (Win9x-like shell, Pocket Office apps...) so that devices can now be made right from Windows CE Platform Builder and include IE, Media Player or Inbox. Sadly, though, the Pocket Office apps (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access) are not included. There are only file viewers shipping.
This is simply a Windows Powered device with a keyboard. The same software could be put into a 1/4 VGA screen unit without a keyboard, still it wouldn't be a Pocket PC.
Handheld PC as a platform is dead. Microsoft's Mobile Devices division concentrates on Pocket PC and Smartphone while the Embedded OS group takes care of devices like this.
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04-22-2003, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc Zimmermann
This is *not* a Handheld PC. Handheld PC was a platform based on Windows CE, but there's apparently no further development being done at Microsoft.
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Point taken. I've edited my post. Sorry, it was too early in the morning.
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Handheld PC as a platform is dead.
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... and it's a sad thing. I would love to see an HPC 2003. Now that we have increasingly connected devices, I think there's a strong incentive for HPCs, much more so than before.
--janak
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04-22-2003, 03:25 PM
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... and it's a sad thing. I would love to see an HPC 2003. Now that we have increasingly connected devices, I think there's a strong incentive for HPCs, much more so than before.
--janak
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I agree. Suppose you worked for a company that, utilizing an ASP or hosting on their own, could deliver corporate applications via Citrix/Terminal Services, this kind of device (with wireless capabilities) would be ideal. Just my 2 cents.
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04-22-2003, 09:14 PM
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Intellectual
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Re: NTT DoCoMo To Release an "HPC"?
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Originally Posted by Janak Parekh
It seems the HPC-sized units aren't entirely dead. NTT DoCoMo is apparently going to (or already has) released this unit, with a 400MHz processor, 800x600 display, 64MB RAM, CF II + SDIO, and presumably some built-in wireless (the specs are here, but I can't make heads or tails of them -- and neither can the Japanese-to-English translators I tried -- can someone help out?). |
The communication capabilities are mostly Japanese-specific:
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NTTドコモ
デジタル携帯電話：9,600bps
PHS：64kbps/32kbps
パケット通信（DoPa）：最大9,600bps/最大28.8kbps
FOMA パケット通信：最大384kbps
FOMA 64Kデータ通信：64Kbps
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NTT DoCoMo:
Digital mobile phone: 9,600bps
PHS: 64kbps/32kbps -- Personal Handy-phone System
Packet communications (DoPa): max 9,600bps / max 28.8kbps
FOMA packet communications: max 384kbps
FOMA 64K data communications: 64 Kbps
That's the best I can make out. Those in Japan would probably know the specifics of the services.
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