04-10-2003, 02:40 PM
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OLED Benefits Over hyped?
"For the past couple of years electronics companies researching OLED, or Organic Light Emitting Diode, displays have been making technology promises that are almost as bright as the displays themselves, but commercial products have been lacking. The first commercial OLED began shipping in March. However, both it and the latest batch of prototypes suggest that the power-reduction promises made about the technology may have been optimistic, at least for the first generation of products."
The article goes on to say that the first OLED screens consume as much, and in some cases more, power than current LCD screens. And I'm having doubts about whether or not I want to buy hardware with organic components that will break down after 10,000 hours. I reuse and give away a lot of my old hardware, and to have it "expire" would be a very negative aspect of OLED to me. What would be interesting is a service industry popping up around OLED - companies would replace the organic components of the OLED display for a small fee. Crazy? Maybe not.
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04-10-2003, 02:47 PM
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Sage
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10,000 hours?!?!? 8O
That's only a little over a year. With a planned lifespan that short the price would have to be ridiculously low for me to want one. Either that or a method to easily replace the screen.
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04-10-2003, 02:48 PM
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Intellectual
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Welcome to Jiffy Screen.
Just bring you screen into bay 2 and our professisonal techs will perform our standard 30-point checkup. Included in this service is:
1) replacement of you old grey-hared microbes with new state-of-the art microbes
2) polish and clean you screen.
3) Free ClearTouch screen protector
4) We'll polish all your electric connectors with our patented pencil rubber eraser.
Just remember to come back in ever three years or 15,000 hours of use. 8O :rock on dude!:
all for $99.
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04-10-2003, 03:05 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Power utilization
If they're after a power savings, I've always wondered why PDA manufacturers don't use white LEDs for backlighting on current displays rather than flourescent?
I know a backlight takes a lot of power, and from personal experience turning it off can make a big difference in battery life. It seems LEDs would have to make a big difference.
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04-10-2003, 03:12 PM
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Thinker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Dodd
10,000 hours?!?!? 8O
That's only a little over a year. With a planned lifespan that short the price would have to be ridiculously low for me to want one. Either that or a method to easily replace the screen.
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I use my home computer max 6hrs a day, and I can safely calculate that the monitor is used average 5 hours per day. If the lifespan was 10,000 hours it'd give the device over 5 years of use.
OLED displays woudn't be very good for 24hrs a day use, but they'd fit well for my use (monitor + tv) if the price was right (and if there was possibility of getting a refueling before selling it second hand).
/jizmo
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04-10-2003, 03:32 PM
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Sage
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jizmo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Dodd
10,000 hours?!?!? 8O
That's only a little over a year. With a planned lifespan that short the price would have to be ridiculously low for me to want one. Either that or a method to easily replace the screen.
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I use my home computer max 6hrs a day, and I can safely calculate that the monitor is used average 5 hours per day. If the lifespan was 10,000 hours it'd give the device over 5 years of use.
OLED displays woudn't be very good for 24hrs a day use, but they'd fit well for my use (monitor + tv) if the price was right (and if there was possibility of getting a refueling before selling it second hand).
/jizmo
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Is it 10,000 hours of use or 10,000 hours of existence? I work in nuclear medicine so I automatically think of things' lifespans in terms of shelf-life, which may be inappropriate in this case. If so I stand corrected.
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04-10-2003, 03:35 PM
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Executive Editor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Dodd
Is it 10,000 hours of use or 10,000 hours of existence? I work in nuclear medicine so I automatically think of things' lifespans in terms of shelf-life, which may be inappropriate in this case. If so I stand corrected.
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10,000 of active use is what they're saying. Active meaning "on and lit up" I believe.
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04-10-2003, 03:48 PM
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Sage
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Dodd
Is it 10,000 hours of use or 10,000 hours of existence? I work in nuclear medicine so I automatically think of things' lifespans in terms of shelf-life, which may be inappropriate in this case. If so I stand corrected.
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10,000 of active use is what they're saying. Active meaning "on and lit up" I believe.
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Thanks for the clarification Jason (and jizmo). That scenario is not nearly as bad as what I had believed it to be.
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04-10-2003, 03:52 PM
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Thinker
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Re: OLED Benefits Over hyped?
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
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- companies would replace the organic components of the OLED display for a small fee. Crazy? Maybe not.
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Not crazy at all. If they promise to replace your screen for a reasonable fee,, (no more than $30 or $40 in a PDA for example, no more than $50 to $60 in a laptop) and as many times as you want, for all the time you want (or at least 10 years, because i may donate old hardware) then it will be not only good, but excelent, since you will worry less about scraching your screen... but i really doubt it. Maybe a free replacement every two or three years?
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04-10-2003, 04:47 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Hmmm ... didn't I hear the life time of the backlight for my beautiful Axim display is 20K hours? I don't see the issue if the life time of the first generation OLEDs is 10K hours. Of course, there may be other issues. Does anybody know how OLEDs look in sunlight?
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