02-12-2003, 03:15 PM
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Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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TDS Recon: Ruggedized CE .Net device
Add yet another ruggedized device to the list of OEM devices running CE .Net. What I found interesting, though, was the screenshots of the device. Check out the XP/Bliss-like menus and color scheme! There are a few more shots on their site, as well as pictures of the unit itself (which, by the way, weighs about 17 ounces).
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02-12-2003, 03:34 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2002
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I had heard of the Recon before. Looks like a sturdy device.
It would be nice if it ran PPC instead of CE 4 simply to make it more compatiple with current peripherals, but it is still a neet looking device and I like the screen shots.
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02-12-2003, 03:39 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 118
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I guess I'm confused...
When are CE.net (CE 4.0/4.1) devices slated to hit the market?
The Recon is obviously shipping, but how many other manufacturers have new products?
Thanks for any updates.
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02-12-2003, 03:58 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,466
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Oh no! It's Palm-Size PC part duex. 8O
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02-12-2003, 04:02 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 103
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Originally Posted by bcre8v2
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I guess I'm confused...
When are CE.net (CE 4.0/4.1) devices slated to hit the market?
The Recon is obviously shipping, but how many other manufacturers have new products?
Thanks for any updates.
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WinCE 4.1 is out, and you can download the 120-day eval copy of the WinCE 4.1 from MS if you were thinking about making a device. The devices should start to roll out anytime soon. Regarding the PPC OS based on WinCE.net, what everyone here wants to know about, has been rather silent.
The Recon looks like a nice rugged device.
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02-12-2003, 04:24 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2004
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So it looks like the next generation of devices are losing the TODAY screen of the PocketPCs? And they are going back to the same taskbar area like the WinCE 2.X? I saw this in the Emulator for the device, but I was hoping that it was not true, anyone knows anything more about this?
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02-12-2003, 05:03 PM
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Mystic
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Originally Posted by EvilOne
So it looks like the next generation of devices are losing the TODAY screen of the PocketPCs? And they are going back to the same taskbar area like the WinCE 2.X? I saw this in the Emulator for the device, but I was hoping that it was not true, anyone knows anything more about this?
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The Today screen is a PocketPC feature. PocketPC uses the WinCE kernal, but has its own apps. This is not a PocketPC device, just a device running WinCE 4
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02-12-2003, 05:10 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by JonnoB
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Originally Posted by EvilOne
So it looks like the next generation of devices are losing the TODAY screen of the PocketPCs? And they are going back to the same taskbar area like the WinCE 2.X? I saw this in the Emulator for the device, but I was hoping that it was not true, anyone knows anything more about this?
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The Today screen is a PocketPC feature. PocketPC uses the WinCE kernal, but has its own apps. This is not a PocketPC device, just a device running WinCE 4 |
Pocket PC 2003 (Whether that will be the official name I don't know) will be built on Windows CE 4.2. CE 4.2 is supposed to harmonise the Pocket PC APIs with the CE 4.x APIs and should therefore allow the Pocket PC platform to run in parallel with future Windows CE releases, rather than lagging behind while a truckload of custom code is written around an older version of the core OS. I should imagine it will probably maintain a UI much more like the existing Pocket PC UI than this "Squish a desktop PC into a handheld" approach used by generic CE 4.1 devices. Its expected to arrive sometime in the first half of this year but anything could happen and theres been very little information let slip about it...
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02-12-2003, 05:11 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 209
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Agreed.
Looks like Windows CE 2.11 with a prettier icon set and a desktop.
So, Pocket PC was developed becasue everyone said that the CE 2.11 interface was not ideal for small screen devices.
Now we see a next generation OS with the same interface that was previously determined to not ideal.
OK.
I'll take a scotch and soda. Hold the soda.
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02-12-2003, 05:26 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by Peter Foot
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Originally Posted by JonnoB
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Originally Posted by EvilOne
So it looks like the next generation of devices are losing the TODAY screen of the PocketPCs? And they are going back to the same taskbar area like the WinCE 2.X? I saw this in the Emulator for the device, but I was hoping that it was not true, anyone knows anything more about this?
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The Today screen is a PocketPC feature. PocketPC uses the WinCE kernal, but has its own apps. This is not a PocketPC device, just a device running WinCE 4 |
Pocket PC 2003 (Whether that will be the official name I don't know) will be built on Windows CE 4.2. CE 4.2 is supposed to harmonise the Pocket PC APIs with the CE 4.x APIs and should therefore allow the Pocket PC platform to run in parallel with future Windows CE releases, rather than lagging behind while a truckload of custom code is written around an older version of the core OS. I should imagine it will probably maintain a UI much more like the existing Pocket PC UI than this "Squish a desktop PC into a handheld" approach used by generic CE 4.1 devices. Its expected to arrive sometime in the first half of this year but anything could happen and theres been very little information let slip about it... |
So PPC 2003 is just a "superset" of features glued onto the kernel... which explains why this device's interface looks so "old", no one has the time and money to spend polishing a user interface like Microsoft can - hence the Pocket PC UI!
I am so READY for some serious changes with PPC - high on my list of wishes is to dump connection mangler, so to hear rumblings that it's due in the 1st half of 2003 is encouraging!
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