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				 PC Overuse OK, I don't like the term "e-thrombosis" either - it's a little too cliche and paranoid, seeing as how people have been working at desks with computers for 40+ years.  However, this article highlights a good general point: make sure you don't get stuck at a screen for an insane number of hours.  I know I'm in front of my computers all the time, but I frequently take my hands off the keyboard, shift around, get up and walk around the office/bedroom, and other physical activities to make sure I'm not developing anything like this.  I think every muscle in my lower body would go to sleep if I was at a computer for long periods amounting to 18 hours a day.  8O
 
 If anything, I'd suspect handheld devices help in this - no more being tethered to your desk.  Perhaps we should start a business in anti-DVT solutions.
  
 "Deep vein thrombosis has been associated with long-haul air travel, but people who work or play for excessive periods at their PCs are also at risk of developing blood clots that could lead to DVT, according to a new report.
 
 Research published in The European Respiratory Journal reports that a young man in New Zealand nearly died after developing DVT following extended periods of PC use.
 
 This first recorded case of 'e-thrombosis' occurred after the New Zealand man spent up to 18 hours a day using a computer. He developed a large blood clot that formed in his leg veins, then broke off and moved to his lungs."
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				 This first recorded case of 'e-thrombosis' occurred after the New Zealand man spent up to 18 hours a day using a computer. He developed a large blood clot that formed in his leg veins, then broke off and moved to his lungs." | OK.. I use computers a lot, but sitting in front of one for 18 hours?  Good grief, get a life...  Everything in moderation folks... |  
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			 Hmm...this isn't too far away from my working habits. I often forget to get up and move around when I "get going".  :?
 
 And here I thought RSIs were serious!  :lol: Getting up and stretching is certainly a good thing. I keep meaning to do a post on RSIs as well - I've found "the solution", and it didn't involve surgery...
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			 So the essence of the message people is don't sit on your ass for too long or it'll kill ya.
 
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			 18 hours?  what the heck can anyone do for 18 hours on their PC?
 
 Most I do is 4-5 hours each day.  And I thought I was one of the worst! Ha!
 
 Unless this guy is a programmer/developer, there is no justification for 18 hours on a computer.  Imagine the amount of eletricity for 18 hours!
 
 Thats like 6 hours of sleep!
 
 
 Go on computer whole day
 Sleep
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 Go on computer whole day
 Sleep
 
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			 Alternative - Have children :lol: (Or at least practice)
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			 8O Wow... 18 hours is not hard for me to imagine in some cases... though I wonder if these sufferers are the typical no-exercise-and-eat-Doritos-for-lunch type of folks. I do exercise on a regular basis and watch my own personal diet, still this is a rather dreary reality.
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				 Wow... 18 hours is not hard for me to imagine in some cases... | Yes it is.  As Fzara says, it means that if you were to sleep 6 hours, you wouldn't go to the bathroom, eat, stretch, walk, shower, change, etc.  I can see a alternative where you sleep 3 hours one night and do the rest in the intervening 3 hours, but I'd be pretty dead exhausted if I did this on any sustained basis.
 
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				 Wow... 18 hours is not hard for me to imagine in some cases... |  Yes it is.  As Fzara says, it means that if you were to sleep 6 hours, you wouldn't go to the bathroom, eat, stretch, walk, shower, change, etc.  I can see a alternative where you sleep 3 hours one night and do the rest in the intervening 3 hours, but I'd be pretty dead exhausted if I did this on any sustained basis. | No, it's not... when I first entered consulting, I was on system development projects where I was literally in the office at 7AM and usually didn't leave until anywnere between 12midnight to 3AM in the morning. Of course I took restroom breaks and at least ate, but all the other necessities (shower, change of clothes, etc.) came during my off hours (yes that translates to as little as 3-4 hours of sleep).
 
I sustained this work output for roughly 6 weeks consecutive, sometimes working 6 or 7 days per week. I paid the price as I became ill the moment I rolled off that project...
 
I could never sustain those hours doing management work now, but in the days when I was a pure developer, 12-14 hours of work came and went quickly... an additional 4 hours to me is not inconceivable.
 
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