01-23-2003, 02:00 AM
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Executive Editor
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Judge Rules Verizon Must Give RIAA the Name of Mega-Music Downloader
"The recording industry can get its hands on the name of an Internet user who downloaded more than 600 songs in a single day, a federal judge has ruled. Judge John D. Bates of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on Tuesday ordered Verizon Internet Services to turn over the name of one of its customers to the Recording Industry Association of America. The ruling is a victory for the record companies in their fight to control how music is downloaded from the Internet."
This should be a bit sobering for those of us that use file sharing services - the DCMA is a big bat, and the RIAA is swinging it around seeing who they can hit. Ouch!
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01-23-2003, 02:27 AM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 541
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At least Hilary Rosen is leaving the RIAA, in an attempt to "soften their image on the Internet"
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01-23-2003, 02:52 AM
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Thinker
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 405
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This is hypocrisy. So the RIAA's new plan is to go around and try to get big file sharers to go to court/jail? This is definitely a very weak strategy by the RIAA. In fact, an 18 year old college student like myself can make a better strategy. Why attack the users, when the technology allows for it? The RIAA has been told numerous times that the internet is becoming, heck, has BEGUN the music revoultion.
The RIAA needs to start lowering prices on albums while offering music which can be listened to by individual users on the computer, WITHOUT limitations.
Maybe the RIAA will hire me :wink:
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01-23-2003, 02:59 AM
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Magi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,341
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I realize the implications of this can get a bit deep, but 600 songs a day! Oh, I'm sure that is all for personal use. I think we should be carefull not to harbour the people who are abusing the file sharing system. It's those type that are making it difficult for those of us that use it as a BUYING tool.
Dave
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01-23-2003, 03:05 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 114
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall of one of these meetings where some consultant tells the moronic executives that this type of action will actually DISCOURAGE people from downloading music. I'm pretty sure that over the course of time, the more you tell someone not to do something, the more likely they are to try. Especially for something as easy to do as this. This is going to be like trying to prosecute everyone who has ever exceeded any speedlimit in any car on any road, EVER. Riiiiiiiight.
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01-23-2003, 04:18 AM
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Thinker
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 329
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Ok let me see if I have this correct.
First this guy did not go out and get 600 mp3, but what he did, was supply 600 downloads to other users? It could have been as simple as he had a "HOT" song on his machine that was want by a large number of people?
To me that makes the 600 number more reasonable. But if that is correct, how do they know how many users downloaded from his site? The RIAA can come into my home, and count the number of people connecting to my server? But not know who, or where I am? I find that a lot more scary myself! :evil: :twisted: Either way if they have a means of getting into this guys computer to count, they can get into yours or mine. Or is it just a case of the RIAA guessing, and everyone taking their guess as a fact?
David
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01-23-2003, 04:38 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I guess "right to privacy" just went right out the window. If an employer turns in a social security # that doesn't match a name the Social Security Admin has, they send a letter to the employer asking him to check the ss# with the employee, while at the same time telling the employer that the employee doesn't have to "show" the card. Verizon could say "Oh, sorry the server crashed."
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01-23-2003, 06:30 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 174
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Unless I'm missing something, I also read that article as implying that the Verizon user only shared hundreds of files, or perhaps contributed to hundreds of downloads. Neither of these equals downloading hundreds of mp3's per day, and neither is that outrageous given P2P.
Either way, the news is disconcerting.
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01-23-2003, 06:36 AM
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Magi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,341
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Isn't anyone curious to know what song it was?! 
Dave
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01-23-2003, 08:45 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 204
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Things like this make me *want* to download every song I see on the net (p2p)
The more they try to tax the music, yes taxing the internet p2p users has been put out there as a new way to crack down on everyone..., the more people will move away from buying CD's and just download them.
They want to blame the net for ruining the Music business? lol
Maybe when the music industry puts out worthwhile music, i'll buy a CD again...
I use p2p here and there, but rarely do I download music. I rarely listen to music period... Nothing to do with the net that turned me away from buying music... the music itself turned me away from buying music. :roll:
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