01-13-2003, 05:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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I Hate To Say I Told You So...
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.asp?Symbol=US:PALM&Feed=PR&Date=20030113&ID=2228999
In my Which PDA is Simple Again article, I talked about how much easier it is for a new person to input data on a Pocket PC rather than a Palm because the Pocket PC accepts a variety of normal letters for input, either with the QWERTY keyboard, Character Recognizer or full screen handwriting recognition via Transcriber whereas the Palm requires you to learn Graffiti.
Well, remember Jot? It was the character based input system in the old Palm-sized PCs from Microsoft. Look for it in a Palm near you! "Communication Intelligence Corporation CICI ("CIC"), the leader in electronic signature, biometric verification and natural input solutions and PalmSource Inc., the Palm OS(R) subsidiary of Palm Inc. PALM and provider of the world's most popular operating system for handhelds and smart phones, announced today a licensing agreement for CIC's Jot(R) handwriting recognition software. Under this agreement, "Graffiti(R) 2 powered by Jot," will be embedded by PalmSource in current versions of its Palm OS platform provided to licensees of its operating system. The new Graffiti 2 handwriting software supports an intuitive, more natural form of input, minimizing learning time for new users and easing the transition for experienced users."
More natural form of input, minimizing learning time, etc. Looks like Palm agrees with much of what I said.  I predict Graffiti will be used strictly by Palm old timers in two years. The days of requiring the human to learn how to adapt to the computer for stylus input were over three years ago. Glad to see all the major players agree.
I especially loved this quote: "Graffiti 2 is a superior handwriting recognition system that will enhance the ease of use that Palm OS is known for. We expect this technology to appeal to a wide range of users who will be able to easily take notes and write memos on their Palm Powered(TM) devices." When Pocket PC users were saying that in 2000, Palm users railed at the thought defending the "ease" and "zen" of Graffiti. Next thing you know, Palm will support multitasking. Oh, wait, they already say they will in OS6. :lol:
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01-13-2003, 05:30 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Was Jot ever in use with the PPC? Is it used to power character recognizer or transcriber? If not, I'm not sure this would carry any merit in the PPC vs Palm debate.
As a former Palm V user, I also remember Jot being available to the Palm as a downloadable alternate input method that never really took off. Of course Graffiti had the distinct advantage of being out-of-box.
Anyway, it will be interesting to the Palm community's reactions when they eventually start using this new handwriting recognition system.
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01-13-2003, 05:34 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
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ROFL !!!
Today: Jot
Tomorrow: Transcriber
Palm OS seems to becoming more and more like the Pocket PC OS every day and every way.
Maybe Sony should run the Pocket PC OS on that new brick with the short battery life !!! :twisted:
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01-13-2003, 05:38 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Interesting take on on this article. Brighthand has an article as well, http://www.brighthand.com/article/Graffiti_Dead They indicated that this is first a legal issue based on a lawsuit from Xerox against Grafitti. Of course, they do quote Palm as saying that this will be easier for new users to learn!
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01-13-2003, 05:51 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by ekkie
Was Jot ever in use with the PPC? Is it used to power character recognizer or transcriber? If not, I'm not sure this would carry any merit in the PPC vs Palm debate.
As a former Palm V user, I also remember Jot being available to the Palm as a downloadable alternate input method that never really took off. Of course Graffiti had the distinct advantage of being out-of-box.
Anyway, it will be interesting to the Palm community's reactions when they eventually start using this new handwriting recognition system.
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The PocketPC has three input methods stored in ROM.
Block Recognizer
"With Block Recognizer you can input character strokes you may have learned using Grafitti(R) from Palm, Inc."
Keyboard
Letter Recognizer
"With Letter Recognizer you can input natural character strokes as well as strokes you may have learned using Jot(R) from CIC."
And then you can install Transcriber off the CD. (Some of the newer ones might have Transcriber in ROM, I'm not sure about that.)
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01-13-2003, 06:03 PM
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Editor Emeritus
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Originally Posted by TrojanUO
And then you can install Transcriber off the CD. (Some of the newer ones might have Transcriber in ROM, I'm not sure about that.)
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Indeed, all the new Pocket PC 2002 units have Transcriber built-in.
Jot's been around the WinCE handhelds since before Pocket PC, actually. I remember learning Jot to help a client set up a Nino for the first time.
--janak
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01-13-2003, 06:09 PM
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Magi
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Originally Posted by TrojanUO
The PocketPC has three input methods stored in ROM.
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I actually knew that having been a PPC user for 2+ years, but wasn't aware if they were powered by Jot technology or not.
Apparently it does power the letter recognizer, which I felt was immediately superior to Graffiti the first time I used it on my EM500 (had been a Graffiti user the previous year).
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01-13-2003, 06:10 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Jul 2003
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I like this quote from the brighthand article even better
"According to Marlene Somsak, Palm's VP of Communications, this will reduce the learning curve. "For new Palm users, Graffiti 2 powered by Jot is more intuitive and natural than Graffiti," Ms. Somsak told Brighthand."
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01-13-2003, 06:14 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Why jot is not popular on Palm
If Jot was available but unpopular, I would suggest the following reason.
The Graffiti charactars are greatly simplified. Jot uses already familiar roman characters that are a bit more complicated and require more "right-angle" motions.
I would suggest that producing jot on a static input surface (one that doesn't "show" your strokes) is probably more difficult. Graffiti is probably easier on a surface without feedback since the penstrokes are more fluid.
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01-13-2003, 06:15 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2002
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One could argue (I don't have the energy though) that Palm and PPC are exchanging places in the market. PPCs are becoming more and more alike, almost like they were made by the same company (HTC perhaps?). Palm is innovating more and more with the hardware (Sony NZ/NX/NV), ok so maybe just Sony is. Seriously The Tungsten is an interesting design although I really don't understand why more Palms don't have virtual input.
Hopefully they're going forward and won't repeat some of the odd mistakes of the PPC platform.
Daniel
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