01-10-2003, 01:10 AM
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Executive Editor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 29,160
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eWallet 3.0 Now Released
eWallet, one of Ilium Software's flagship applications, has reached the 3.0 level. I find it frustrating though that none of the three major digital wallet vendors (Ilium, DeveloperOne, Two Peaks) offer import/export functionality to move from one product to another. How far would Microsoft Money have gotten if it weren't able to import Quicken data? I chatted with one of the above vendors about this issue, and he said the problem was that there was no formal arrangement for the data - the import would work for some cards, and not for other. We need an eWallet standard for storing data! It's hard to move away from one digital wallet to try out another one if you have to hand-code all your data again... 8O
"Now you can have all your important information in a format that's secure, easy to access, centralized and portable wherever you want it! Use Ilium Software eWallet� on your Palm Handheld, Windows PC (desktop or notebook), Pocket PC, or Handheld PC. Collect and keep all your important info, including:
� New detail fields for important extra info
� Icons and card colors now on all handhelds
� New AutoPass feature fills in usernames and passwords on web pages for you (Windows PC only)
� More live URLs
� Live phone numbers (if you have a phone-enabled handheld) "
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01-10-2003, 01:59 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 40
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In the market for a wallet program
I have been looking for/trying out some of the wallet programs that are available and I agree that it is very time consuming to input all my existing data then move on to the next application.
One question that I have about all these wallet apps. How hard is it really to break into the data? What type of encryption is used other than my password protecting the file. If were to lose my pocket pc (god forbid), could someone after a little time get access to all my personal information. Of course I use the crappy M$ password, but I am sure that can be broken also.
I hope one day I will be able to make a purchase or pay for anything with my pocket pc. (I can dream, can't I?) :roll:
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01-10-2003, 02:46 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 60
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I've been using 3.0 for the last week or so and it's pretty solid. I don't see too many differences between 3.0 and the previous version, but I'm only using it for basic functions such as storing my passwords and account numbers. As for backing up the data, I simply syncing it to my desktop (pro version required for that, I think) and I'm all set. It will also backup fine using an application like PocketBackup from Sprite. The "wallet" is just a file that is stored in your my documents folder. It back sup like everything else.
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01-10-2003, 03:35 AM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,264
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You hit it on the head. I don't want to reinput my data again. The program that I used for storing passwords etc when i was on palm had a feature to export it as a note with commas delimiting it. I could then pull it right into excel to make edits faster. Since moving to PPC, I have been using that same spreadsheet as a password protected sheet. I am not quite satisified with the security of this, but I have about 200 entries and don't particularly feel like reentering them all.
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01-10-2003, 04:11 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 206
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XML
One vendor simply needs to export data to an xml standard, and support import of xml files. Every other vendor could follow.
The question I have is that by doing this they make it easier for customers to switch to another product. Why would they want to?
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01-10-2003, 04:30 AM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 338
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Re: eWallet 3.0 Now Released
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
It's hard to move away from one digital wallet to try out another one if you have to hand-code all your data again... 8O
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Jason -- that's why you start out with the best to begin with and upgrade to each new version as they come out! :lol: EWallet from Ilium is the best (and no, I'm not related to them in any way shape or form, other than I buy software from them.)
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01-10-2003, 04:57 AM
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Executive Editor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 29,160
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Re: eWallet 3.0 Now Released
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Originally Posted by Bob Anderson
Jason -- that's why you start out with the best to begin with and upgrade to each new version as they come out! :lol: EWallet from Ilium is the best (and no, I'm not related to them in any way shape or form, other than I buy software from them.)
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I'm a CodeWallet Pro user right now, but I really want to switch to FlexWallet - the UI is just plain beautiful! The password screen uses BIG buttons, something I've wanted CodeWallet to have for a long time. And it takes you into the wallet after you enter the code - CodeWallet forces you to click the wee OK button. :?
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01-10-2003, 05:40 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 23
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Still lacking multiple levels
I have used e-wallet since version 1 for the HPC (back in the days of my Sharp Mobilon 4500) and I use it every day for a LOT of information.
My single complaint about this program (and I'm pretty sure it applies to the others) is that you cannot have mulitple levels of folders with items in them.
I started out keeping all this information in Outline format (on my Sharp Zaurus ZR-5800  ) and am really disappointed that no one has developed a solution that allows multiple levels of hierarchy in the tree.
I spoke with Ilium about this a year or so ago and they said it was on their wish list and would likely be in the next release but I guess it is more complex than it appears.
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Owen Taylor
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01-10-2003, 05:42 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 21
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:)
First, I would like to thank those responsible for the givaways. I was one of those lucky enough to win a free version of Ewallet. I was using an older version of Ewallet, but didn't want to pay to upgrade so I was very happy to be selected.
It is more convenient for entering data, with more (and better organized) fields. I also like the new icon view better than the tree view. Still, I use it like my real wallet: i.e. I keep it closed and not much goes in or out. I have used it a few times over the past week or so, but to be honest, I didn't gain much with the upgrade. I use a Casio E-125 and don't have wireless capability, so many of the features like the live url's don't do me much good. Probably a good investment for high-end end users though.
I also agree with Jason that reentering data every time you try a new product is tiresome, but from a security standpoint it seems reasonable to have a different wallet file format than your competitors. That way, even if someone found an easy way to crack the encryption for one piece of software, the others would still be secure. Having a standard import/export format would probably be more secure and more workable.
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01-10-2003, 05:43 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 10
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Do any of the ewallet vendors offer just a simple list form, like a basic ListPro list, but with encryption? I don't want to format everything like a card, and I don't necessarily want the numbers displayed in big letters. I prefer a basic list of records - that way, most of the time the numbers I need are visible on the list selection screen and I don't even have to open a card.
Thanks,
RickK
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