12-18-2002, 08:43 PM
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Executive Editor
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Network Dweebs Corporation Withdraws from PocketGear
Oh boy, I predict this is going to be a hot topic. What do you think about this? Is PocketGear "smutty" or just doing their job selling software? Where's the line of what's appropriate?
"We simply do not wish to be affiliated with a site that allows the kind of adult advertising PocketGear does." said the software manufacturer's president, "half-naked women have no place on the front page of a software site that may be visited by teenagers, women, and even men who may find that kind of advertising offensive". Other contributing factors reportedly included the skewing of user reviews - e.g. the ability for software manufacturers to remove negative reviews and display only positive reviews, and the poor performance of the web site's search engine - a tool the software manufacturer feels is below average.
All software provided by Network Dweebs Corporation, including its freeware OpenNAP (Napster) client is scheduled to be removed from the site within the next 48 hours. New software by Network Dweebs Corporation including 'Pocket DynDNS', a dynamic DNS client for PocketPC, and the company's up-and-coming "digital media" voice and data software, will not be available on the site. You can look for these products on Handango or other popular Pocket PC software sites."
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12-18-2002, 08:53 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Feb 2002
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I'll be honest, I have stopped visiting the site from work because all of this "Strip" this and "Strip" that would show up. If someone walked up behind me and saw that, they would think I was doing other things besides looking for legitimate business related software.
Just my view, even if it is askew.
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12-18-2002, 08:54 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 90
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Re: Network Dweebs Corporation Withdraws from PocketGear
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
Oh boy, I predict this is going to be a hot topic. What do you think about this? Is PocketGear "smutty" or just doing their job selling software? Where's the line of what's appropriate?
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I believe they are doing the right thing. It is best to always stick to your morals. I dont care for PocketGear too much anyway. Skewing feedback results removes the whole point of having feedback.
And while I am on the subject of naked women. I think they are great. But I am long over 18 and although I do not get offended at the sight of a naked woman I dont think these images should be easy for children to see.
Robert
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12-18-2002, 08:57 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 90
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While I am thinking about it what is the best site to go to for PocketPC software?
Robert
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12-18-2002, 08:59 PM
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Swami
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Network Dweebs Corporation Withdraws from PocketGear
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn quoting Network Dweebs
"We simply do not wish to be affiliated with a site that allows the kind of adult advertising PocketGear does." said the software manufacturer's president, "half-naked women have no place on the front page of a software site that may be visited by teenagers, women, and even men who may find that kind of advertising offensive".
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Yeah, who wants "half-naked women". If they want my business, the women should be fully naked. :rofl:
Seriously, I just visited PocketGear to see what the fuss was about. There are a couple of ads for Pocket Strip Poker, but the women are fully dressed. They are making "come hither" motions with their fingers, but there's hardly any skin. There's also a rotating ad that occasionally features Pocket Strip Poker, but. again, without much skin.
Interestingly, the first item listed in the PocketGear news feed at this time is Pocket Dweebs saying they're (ahem) pulling out from PocketGear. (The exact quotation is "Network Dweebs Corporation gets fed up with PocketGear".)
I think they're making a mountain out of a molehill, but I have a high tolerance for adult content. It's their business, and they're free to run it as they see fit.
Steve
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12-18-2002, 09:00 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 174
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Who? What company? What president referring to himself in the 3rd person in a press release he wrote? (Not that I'm above that!)
Anyway...PocketGear does have a lot of problems from the search engine all the way up to the fact that they generate far fewer sales than Handango (order of magnitude?). What's a little skin to keep the site floating?
The real question is why this company decided to make a public issue out of this. I'm guessing there's something political about it. It does make a point of mentioning Handango.
It's too bad really because I want to see PocketGear succeed but they don't seem to putting the energy into making the site a grade A venture. Handango is quickly becoming a software distribution monopoly for the Pocket PC and the first and last place many consumers go to for their software needs.
We need 2 players (at least) in this area. If PocketGear shows some signs of life I think we would all benefit from supporting them.
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12-18-2002, 09:00 PM
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Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Programmer
While I am thinking about it what is the best site to go to for PocketPC software?
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pretty good...
--janak
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12-18-2002, 09:02 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 56
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Gee, I wonder where Dweebs is going to sell thier stuff now?? I mean if they don't like PocketGear because of all the adult stuff, then I can only assume that a similar notice will be sent out about Handango which sell the exact same adult titles that PocketGear sells.
On a side note I find it odd that a company who released a piece of software based off of Napster, which was notorious for being able to download massive amounts of porn, is taking a high and mighty stance all of a sudden. Now, I don't know if the Pocket Napster can download porn since I have not yet got it to connect to any of the servers I have tried, but I assume it can.
Oh well, I can only guess that there is more going on behind the scenes then we are being told and the Dweebs are using this B.S. porn excuse. So goes the on going saga of "As the Internet Turns!"
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12-18-2002, 09:15 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Nov 2004
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muaddip: Handango does not sell the same adult titles that Pocket Gear does. In fact, Handango recommends developers keep things clean and not upload nudity or suggestive images (this is mentioned in the developer area where screenshots are submitted). And as far as I know, Handango removes offensive titles that get submitted as soon as they are noticed.
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12-18-2002, 09:15 PM
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Editor Emeritus
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muaddip, you may be right in that there are other motives. I think there is a noticeable difference, though, in that Handango doesn't prominently feature such software on their front page.
It doesn't bother me too much, but it's hard to PocketGear the site to people who might be offended or who are working in a public space.
--janak
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