11-04-2002, 09:00 PM
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PowerOne Finance Calculator
http://www.infinitysw.com/products/poweronefinance.html
Infinity Softworks has released powerOne Finance for the Pocket PC and Windows desktop. This looks like one of the most powerful financial calculators for the Pocket PC, rivaling the functionality of the classic HP 12c. This version supports downloadable skins which can move the operators around to facilitate left handed users. It is $59.99 for one platform or $99.99 for a package with the Pocket PC and Windows desktop versions. It runs on all Pocket PC devices and uses about 750KB of storage.
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11-04-2002, 10:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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not to be rude...
So... 100$ for a financial calculator. 100$ for a 750K program?
This is the kind of program I would expect to be assigned to a sophmore year programming class... and I would expect half of the class to write it the night before it's due.
This just seems to be a prime example of why most poeple don't 'buy' ppc software. 100$ for a calculator, 50$ for a skin generator, 40$ for a modified taskbar? If it wasn't for the freeware and shareware developers, who generally write better apps than places such as powerone, I would have a paper weight.
The developers definitely deserve something for their efforts...and maybe charging $100 is a way to compensate for piracy.... but this seems whorish, beating up on the poeple that actually BUY software?
This is defintely one MAJOR CON to having a ppc. Software is so expensive, this alone would have turned me off the ppc scene if I would have known about it before buying one.
I still do most WORK (physics major) on an old 8mb palm.
Maybe I'm missing out on something.
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11-04-2002, 10:12 PM
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Re: not to be rude...
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Originally Posted by gliscameria
Maybe I'm missing out on something.
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Yup. $100 includes the Windows Desktop and Palm versions as well as the PPC version.
This is also for the business user. I paid $89 for my HP 17BII a few years ago. I would never give up the tactile feel of the keys on my HP, but function wise, this looks like it could replace my HP, and for $60 you can load it on your PC, change the buttons around with the skin and leave your calculator behind.
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11-04-2002, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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This is definitely PT barnum executive edition.
What's so hard about using pocket excel to calculate whatever they are calculating like any other normal people?
at $100 bucks I would expect it has the capability of Mathematica or Maple instead of beep beep dinky calculator.
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11-04-2002, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mookie123
This is definitely PT barnum executive edition.
What's so hard about using pocket excel to calculate whatever they are calculating like any other normal people?
at $100 bucks I would expect it has the capability of Mathematica or Maple instead of beep beep dinky calculator.
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If you guys don't like the app that is fine. But you have no freaking clue what you are talking about. Getting Excel to do compound interest calculations with no payment information is a feat in itself, something a financial calculator can do it its sleep. Getting Excel to tell you the interest and principal portions for payments #38-41 in a 360 payment loan requires setting up a mondo spreadsheet or a series of complex formulas with embedded formulas.
And doing all of that with a SIP instead of a dedicated keypad with a program that has "cells" instead of a stack and a formula logic that requires algebraic notation rather than Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) is enough to drive anyone that does this day to day absolutely INSANE! :evil:
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11-04-2002, 10:44 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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I used their online demo for about 5 minutes and then made my purchase. This is definately for the business user. The things that got me were the Statistical functions and the Solver. And, the forms in this application look pretty nice. I am digging the dedicated keypad for forms entry.
This just replaced OmniSolve, which I have been using for a couple of years now.
I wish I had this application when I was going through my Six Sigma Certification.
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11-04-2002, 10:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
If you guys don't like the app that is fine. But you have no freaking clue what you are talking about. Getting Excel to do compound interest calculations with no payment information is a feat in itself, something a financial calculator can do it its sleep. Getting Excel to tell you the interest and principal portions for payments #38-41 in a 360 payment loan requires setting up a mondo spreadsheet or a series of complex formulas with embedded formulas.
And doing all of that with a SIP instead of a dedicated keypad with a program that has "cells" instead of a stack and a formula logic that requires algebraic notation rather than Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) is enough to drive anyone that does this day to day absolutely INSANE! :evil:
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I couldn't agree more.
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11-04-2002, 11:21 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
If you guys don't like the app that is fine. But you have no freaking clue what you are talking about. Getting Excel to do compound interest calculations with no payment information is a feat in itself, something a financial calculator can do it its sleep. Getting Excel to tell you the interest and principal portions for payments #38-41 in a 360 payment loan requires setting up a mondo spreadsheet or a series of complex formulas with embedded formulas.
And doing all of that with a SIP instead of a dedicated keypad with a program that has "cells" instead of a stack and a formula logic that requires algebraic notation rather than Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) is enough to drive anyone that does this day to day absolutely INSANE! :evil:
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Something like these built in formulas? they involve clicking on the formula and punching the 5 or 6 numbers. Definitely easier than clicking a virtual calculator numeric pad simulating 12 digit LCD. Ya can make your own form and save it in spread sheet. (imagine that :roll: )
FV (rate, nper, pmt, pv, type) -- Returns the future value of an investment.
PMT (rate, nper, pv, fv, type) -- Returns the periodic payment for an annuity.
RATE (nper, pmt, pv, fv, type, guess) -- Returns the interest rate per period of an annuity.
list of built in formulas in P excel
http://casio.monacocorp.co.nz/cassio...lfunctions.htm
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11-04-2002, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mookie123
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Getting Excel to do compound interest calculations with no payment information is a feat in itself, something a financial calculator can do it its sleep.
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Something like these built in formula? they involve clicking on the formula and punching the 5 or 6 numbers. Definitely easier than clicking a virtual calculator numeric pad simulating 12 digit LCD.
FV (rate, nper, pmt, pv, type) -- Returns the future value of an investment.
PMT (rate, nper, pv, fv, type) -- Returns the periodic payment for an annuity.
RATE (nper, pmt, pv, fv, type, guess) -- Returns the interest rate per period of an annuity. |
What did I say? What did I say? No payment information. PMT is not an optional parameter. Do a basic interest calcuation that compounds 12 times a year with no payments for 54 months and tell me the future value in Excel.
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11-04-2002, 11:39 PM
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Ed's Right
Ed's right, there's no easy way to get Excel to do amortizations or tell you the principal vs. interest at any specific period. Sure, like you mentioned, it can do SIMPLE TVM calculations easily.
I've been using Landware's OmniSolve since July of '00 and it's worked great for me.
FINANCIAL CALCULATORS RULE! :rock on dude!:
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