10-10-2002, 02:30 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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More info on the Canary
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/recensioni/hardware/htc_canary.asp
Pocket PC Italia has obtained some better images of the Canary Smartphone 2002 shown here last week.
From what I can make out, here are the key specs. Any Italians correct me if I got it wrong or missed something critical:
� 100hrs standby, 3hrs talk time � 133MHz TI OMAP 720 processor (this is an ARM processor, the same that I think is in the HP Jornada 928) � 16MB RAM, 24MB FlashROM � 16bit color, 176X220 screen - the norm for Smartphone 2002 devices � 4+1 function joypad � Vibrate mode � GSM/GPRS and Tri-band. This means it will work on the North American GSM networks. � Uscita Stereofonica per Cuffie - I am guessing this means stereo output via headset? � IR port
Source: Enrico Pappolla of Pocket PC Italia.
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10-10-2002, 03:12 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 360
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For Smart so Stupid
I think I am just ready to groan and get over the whole smart phone thing. I have posted many a rant on Smartphones and even Phone Edition PPC devices. My biggest complaint is that there is just so little support for CDMA devices. Maybe it is just because I am American, I am not sure but gash darnit I think OEMs should be making more CDMA devices. I know CDMA is only bigg here and in some Asian Countries but Dang. CDMA is HUGE in Amereica. And this is America!!!
Anyway, I do want to say that this Canaray phone is a very sharp looking device. I would buy one in a heartbeat if it would work with my carrier. But I am on Sprint PCS and even though my Contract is up in December it is just too much trouble to switch and I like my service, especially now that there is Vision.
I hope the Samsung I600 is out by the End of December otherwise I will just have to settle for some Vision enabled phone I do not really want, that will not sync with anything.
It just gets old for a while. ANd MS has been touting Smartphone for at least a year that I have been aware of it, some people even longer.
Smartphone, Dumb Consumers, (of which I am one) well no more. December is the last chance. Do you hear me Microsoft?
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10-10-2002, 03:50 PM
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Contributing Editor
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Quote:
L'assenza delle specifiche I/O nello slot SD � una evidente e non trascurabile carenza.
Per questo motivo non sar� possibile integrare funzioni Bluetooth o Wi-Fi ma soltanto utilizzare schede di memoria SD o MMC.
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Well cool and bummer. It has s SD slot but it is not I/O...
Only good for SD or MMC memory.
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10-10-2002, 03:54 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 59
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I recently had a meeting with Nokia, as part of my current day job, and was delighted to hear that Nokia was apparently try to patch up the diaster that is their relationship with Sprint PCS. As some of you may know, they had a huge falling out a few years ago when the 6000 series of phones for CDMA turned out to be a hunk of junk. Personally I hate Nokia phones, but they are big and where they go others follow. I go the impression they might eventually release the 9000 series as CDMA, but they didn't really make comment. They did agree that CDMA was coming and that they would have to deal with that technology eventually.
The whole key to CDMA is Europe. Every major carrier I know of has CDMA on their roadmap, including AT&T and Cingular. I don't know about Europe though. AT&T has it planned for 2005 or 2006 I believe. It is the only way they can reach the speeds they want to be at for the really juicy services.
For now though, GSM is king in the world and everyone but the Korean MFGs and Japanese MFGs are building GSM phones first adn then considering CDMA.
I just wish Korea would shoot their phones over here faster. They have had the new network now for nearly 2 years and are on I think the 3rd generation of new phones... Koreans replace their phones faster than we do in the states.
Anyway, I agree with the previous post... more phones in CDMA. However, Iit is also my understanding that Sprint PCS has for the time being decided to not use the SmartPhones., I don't know about Verizon They are going with Java phones. I think many of the carriers do not believe that the SmartPhones will not be popular and will be too expensive but not feature rich enough. So they are going with Pocket PC Phones and smaller Java phones. Several months ago I went to a conference and saw many of hte upcoming phones, some of which are out now and not one was a SmartPhone like Canary and when I asked they were very blunt and said they had no immediate plans to consider those phones.
I did see some pretty cool Samsung phones, one based on HandHeld PPC as I recall as well as some Java based phones.
I think we are going to see tiny and big phones for many moons to come. Too bad... I like the Canary but I think it is pretty dead on a 14.4 network.
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10-10-2002, 04:59 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 209
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AT&T and Cingular have CDMA on their roadmap?
GEEZ! Their both TDMA (no data) now moving to GSM/GPRS (very slowly) and they have CDMA in their future? Why? And it there is a good reason to move to CDMA, why even bother with GSM?
Isn't GSM the defacto standard of the world?
Head hurts. Don't have the info. Need input. Want to understand...
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And there you are.
I was just thinking, "What could take this headache I have over that edge to a full blown migrane?"
And there you are.
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10-10-2002, 05:14 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Jul 2003
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I've had my Smartphone for a little over a week (dev edition) and I simply love it. It is simply the best phone/PDA I have ever used. I've always fallen into the 1 device camp, but I can see a lot of people moving over, especially if they can put out a small crack-berry style clip-on keyboard for notes and such (T9 just doesn't cut it for text entry).
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10-10-2002, 05:40 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 130
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I'm lost!
witch one is faster GSM/GPRS or CDMA? or better?
Please somebody with a clue tell me....
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10-10-2002, 06:04 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 153
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpaq
AT&T and Cingular have CDMA on their roadmap?
GEEZ! Their both TDMA (no data) now moving to GSM/GPRS (very slowly)
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I'm considering moving to AT&T's "next generation" network (GSM/GPRS), since my current carrier, T-Mobile, wanted to charge me full price for the T68 they offer to new customers for half price (despite my offering to sign an additional contract). The AT&T rep said that they plan to have mirrored their TDMA network with GSM by the end of Q1'03. The rep also admitted that he thought it would be more like end of Q2'03, which I took as end of Q3'03.
Considering the size of AT&T's TDMA network, even my estimate doesn't really fall into the 'very slowly' category.
-Jim
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10-10-2002, 06:28 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 248
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GSM v. CDMA
At current speeds, CDMA is marginally faster than GSM. I have ATT and have no plans to switch (though I am going to smash my 3360 as soon as I get the T68, terrible phone). I used the T68 and itwas as crisp and clear as Voicestream and once their gigantic network is up and running fully it will be tops next to Verizon. But I prefer ATT's plans. Also, for those not interestedin BT, Motorola's T720 is due out for ATT later this month per a rep. I think I'll stick with a ppc instead of a smartphone.
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10-10-2002, 07:06 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 21
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GSM stinks and CDMA is the world
GSM _can_ certainly sound better than CDMA if you have a direct view to a tower. However, because of the limitations of the GSM technology the signal strength is 9 times out of ten lower than a CDMA-based connection. It is the nature of the GSM standard. It simply isn't very good. GSM is limited to communicating with one tower at a time. CDMA can combine up to three connections at once and therefore have much stronger connections in general.
Kenny, how did you get into the mobile phone early adopters program? Please have mercy on a poor soul and give me some pointers...
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