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Old 08-19-2002, 08:22 AM
Andy Sjostrom
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I have had a terrible weekend, and the beginning of this week does not look any better. Here are some fragments:

I have tried getting a WiFi network up and running at home. I bought a D-Link DI-804 router and got that working. Then starts Nightmare: setting up the Symbol Access Point 4121-1050-EU (AP) and getting it to communicate with my HP Jornada 565 and Socket WiFi Compact Flash card. Before I go on, let me issue a severe warning. Do not, I repeat, do not say setting up a WiFi network is easy. That would make me explode...

I connect the AP to the router. It gets an IP. I can ping it. I can configure it both using Telnet and the Web UI. I set the ESSID on both AP and Pocket PC , I choose "Infrastructure" as operating mode. I turn off WEP, I enable "Accept Broadcast ESSID", I try both enabling DHCP on AP and Pocket PC as well as disabling and setting static IPs. I soft reset a gazillion times. After a while the AP does not initialize after a reset. I hard reset the AP by shorting serial port pin 2 and 3, it comes back. I hard reset my Pocket PC (!), install Socket drivers. STILL NO CONNECTION! I am not sure which will go out the window first: the Symbol AP, the HP Pocket PC or Socket's CF card.

I've been working, both professionally and privately, with Pocket PCs the last four years. My computer experience goes 20 years back. I have got WiFi networks up and running before. If I can't get this working, who will!? Well, OK! I know one: Chris De Herrera of CEWindows.NET. If it wasn't for his assistance this weekend, I'd be hospitalized. Chris has given scores of valid input and things to try. He is one of the most helpful and patient guys I know.

(Now. Feel better. Pocket PC Thoughts is the best shrink there is!)
 
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Old 08-19-2002, 08:45 AM
Arne Hess
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Originally Posted by Andy Sjostrom
I have had a terrible weekend, and the beginning of this week does not look any better. Here are some fragments:
Before I go on, let me issue a severe warning. Do not, I repeat, do not say setting up a WiFi network is easy. That would make me explode...
Sorry to hear that it didn't worked as expected...
But it makes me also smiling a little bit :lol: because it's great that you highlight it here that also Wi-Fi isn't so easy to enable/configure cause all the discussion we had here on Thoughts about "how cool and easy Wi-Fi is and how difficult and non-cool Bluetooth is". :wink:
I mean we are talking about technologies and specially wireless technologies (expect infrared) are always hard to configure.
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Old 08-19-2002, 09:02 AM
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I agree on one thing: Chris De Herrera is a very helpful person. When I was looking for someone to help out the Japanese programmer of nPOP with the English translation, he volunteered immediately. And I know he's a busy guy, so it's not like he has lots of spare time to spend. He just likes helping out. Chris, you rock!

And I'm really, really hoping that setting up a Linksys WiFi Router after they install my cable modem connection in September will be less of a pain than your D-Link / Symbol combination!
 
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Old 08-19-2002, 09:04 AM
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Arne, my friend!
I am not in the mood right now. :cry:
 
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Old 08-19-2002, 09:20 AM
Arne Hess
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Arne, my friend!
I am not in the mood right now. :cry:
Sorry to hear but at least all/most of us had this experiences with W-LAN, Access Points, DSL modems too...
My first installation on my PC at homes made me sick like your one...
It was so frustrating so I know how you feel... :silly:
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Old 08-19-2002, 10:12 AM
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And I'm really, really hoping that setting up a Linksys WiFi Router after they install my cable modem connection in September will be less of a pain than your D-Link / Symbol combination!
If your cards (for Pocket PC, laptop) are also Linksys, you will be up and running in half an hour. The only issue can arise if your ISP looks for a specific MAC (network card) address and therefor will not acccept the router to be connected directly to the cable modem. However, the Linksys router has a software option to spoof that same MAC address, so your ISP will be happy.
Try not to mix brands. I know it is supposed to work but I've seen too many reports proving otherwise.
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Old 08-19-2002, 10:26 AM
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Try not to mix brands. I know it is supposed to work but I've seen too many reports proving otherwise.
Asus ADSL modem/router, D-Link AP, Orinoco Silver 802.11b card... no real problems once I took some advice and disabled the router's DNS forwarding system.

If it were me, and I was having that kind of trouble, I'd be blaming the hardware by now. Fritzed card or AP. Got any proof that any particular one of them is working?

Anyway, I've had enough painful network installations to comiserate in a major way. Good luck getting it sorted.
 
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Old 08-19-2002, 11:00 AM
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My sympathies are with you Andy.

Took me two weeks. Still don't know what I did eventually to make it work and have NO intention of messing with it to find out.
 
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Old 08-19-2002, 12:12 PM
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After all the discussions we had during the weekend I think that the problem is on the PPC/CFWLAN side. I would try the PCMCIA-WLAN that you have. And don't forget to capitalize the ESSID (you never know).
 
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:16 PM
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I can sympathize with you. I too had a difficult time. My setup was futher complicated by the SMC AP I purchased. The first one did not work no matter what I did, so I returned it. The second one also did not work. SMC had no answers, so I took it apart and found that the card on the inside was not plugged into its socket. When I told SMC about how I fixed it they were elated. They told me that I had just solved a major manufacturing issue. They had an entire batch of APs that did not have the card inserted. My reward for that was exactly nothing.

I will say that after I got it initially configured, the network is pretty easy to add to. All you have to do is keep track of all your settings!
 
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