08-16-2002, 07:00 PM
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Executive Editor
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Pocket PC OEMs talking to Palm?
http://news.com.com/1601-2-949843.html
Sounds like FUD to me, but David Nagel (head burrito at PalmSource) claims that all of the Pocket PC OEMs have been talking to PalmSource about creating devices based on their OS. I find it a little hard to believe that Dell is talking to Palm while prepping to release their own Pocket PC. It's quite possible that Dell had a meeting with Palm months ago, Palm did an OS 5 demo, and Dell said "Ok, seriously, what can it REALLY do?". The interview is interesting, if only to see where PalmSource's headspace is at. There's a little too much "I can neither confirm nor deny" going on to make it a riveting interview - I learned more about the journalists based on their questions than I did about PalmSource. Source: Foo Fighter
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08-16-2002, 07:12 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Here's an interesting thought I've had ever since I first heard of OS5 and ARM processors...
What's to keep a company from offering OS5 OR PocketPC on any specific ARM hardware? Or BOTH? What hardware differences would have to be overcome?
It would be interesting to have the option to purchase an OS5 Ipaq, or OS5 Toshiba e740...
Brian K
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08-16-2002, 07:15 PM
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Ponderer
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Remember that some of these same companies have testified in the USDOJ case that they are bullied by Microsoft. Would it really be surprising if they were entertaining the idea of also producing devices running PalmOS instead of remaining so closely tied to another Microsoft OS? Wasn't it mentioned here that Toshiba initially approached Palm about a license and was rebuffed? (I read it somewhere recently.)
I guess it does look like FUD, but I have a hard time believing that a company like Palm could actually wield FUD against Microsoft. I picture a camper fending off a bear with a twig.
I wouldn't worry so much about any of the current hardware producers abandoning the platform, in favor of PalmOS or for any other reason, considering the investments they must have made by now. They are putting out great devices and probably have less fear of becoming the next Velo - the best device on an abandoned platform.
Scott
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08-16-2002, 07:21 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Palm can weild FUD. They seem to have some sort of mind control over the media. When Palm does something relatively minor everyone has articles written up about it and how it will change the PDA market completely. Meanwhile Microsoft releases a major upgrade to Pocket PC to allow the Pocket PC to also be a telephone and you barely get a twitter. Media is really biased towards Palm.
Charles
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08-16-2002, 07:31 PM
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Sage
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I realize Acer isn't exactly a big name in the US for PDA's, if there marketing technique is any indication of what other companies might be considering, we could see some strickly PPC companies pick up a Palm OS device or two (though in Acers case they are started with Palm and picked up PPC). I think it is a good marketing idea. Sell people that are think Palm OS devices are the only PDA's in the world, then slip them the idea that if they actually want to be able to do something more then just contacts, change the to their brand of Pocket PC.
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08-16-2002, 07:43 PM
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Pupil
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I agree. But there too much PocketPC bias on this site, not that I'm complaining it is called "PocketPCthoughts".
Just ignore the media, most of the time they don't even understand the technology they are reporting. PalmOS and PocketPC both have their place on the marketplace.
I like the idea of being able to buy a device from Sony/Toshiba/whoever and choose to run PalmOS, LinuxPDA or PocketPC (or whatever Microsoft calls it today). Frankly I don't want either Palm or PocketPC to die.
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08-16-2002, 07:45 PM
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Executive Editor
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Originally Posted by BoyWithPockets
I agree. But there too much PocketPC bias on this site, not that I'm complaining it is called "PocketPCthoughts".
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Who are you agreeing with? You're the first person to say it. :razzing: But I'm glad you realize that it's a Pocket PC site, and that IS our bias. 
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08-16-2002, 08:15 PM
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Mystic
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commercial
Timing sometimes can create humorous conditions. I read comments from other visitors to this site and went on to watch the video... and then I got a Microsoft commercial. I found it funny.
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Jonathan (JonnoB)
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke
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08-16-2002, 10:27 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2002
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your ad here
this was a pretty good interview, the folks a cnet asked some really good questions.
cheers,
pt
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08-16-2002, 11:01 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2002
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I think it is a good marketing idea. Sell people that are think Palm OS devices are the only PDA's in the world, then slip them the idea that if they actually want to be able to do something more then just contacts, change the to their brand of Pocket PC.
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I know this is a PPC only site and about your bias, but people here underestimating the palm OS and bashing it with invalid arguments, saying that Palm OS can only do basic PIM. Some Palm OS handheld even surpass the PPC in features.
Take for example the Clie NR 70V and its specs compared to PPC:
Resolution Clie(320x480) PPC (240x320)
MP3 player Clie (hardware with Yamaha chip) PPC(Software)
Built in cammera Clie(YES) PPC(NO)
Keyboard Clie(YES) PPC(NO)
Also Clies can syncronize word documents without loosing the formatting (and yes the software is included free). And there is nothing cooler than watching 320x480 widescreen video on the clie with the free Kinoma player. Also consider that OS 5 will surpass all of the clie features and is able to run on all ARM 7 processors including Xscale.
Please consider that some of this sites visitors use more than one OS and are not Palm OS haters. Also I recommend you that the best way to promore one OS is to talk about its features and not to critizice other OSs with invalid arguments (take a tip from politics).
When people keep saying that Palm OS handheld are filofax machines it is like the when the Linux people keep saying that Windows XP crashes all the time, when in fact Windows XP is as stable (if not more) as Linux.
My thougts
A Palm OS and PPC user.
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