08-01-2002, 06:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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RIM faces pressure from Pocket PC Phone and Smartphone
http://www.nationalpost.com/financialpost/story.html?id={44D934FC-0B6B-4F32-AE8E-E22293BB0C50}
"Research in Motion Ltd. was hit with two potential competitive blows yesterday that could hurt sales of its popular BlackBerry handheld device. Analysts believe a strategic alliance between AT&T Wireless Inc. and Microsoft Corp. is a threat to RIM because it will see AT&T sell Microsoft's new Pocket PC handheld device and Pocket PC wireless phone to business customers."
The second threat was from Dell, the number one PC maker that has huge inroads to the enterprise customer, RIM's primary market.
It is going to be a whole new ballgame in the US when Pocket PCs and Smartphones start shipping in quantity. This is what Microsoft has been working towards for years now, not on a disconnected PDA. I think the PDA landscape will look very different in 12 months. What about you?
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08-01-2002, 06:06 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Different Landscape - Maybe
I don't know about you - but I'm more comfortable sticking with two devices - a phone and a PDA...
About the only way I could see myself using a Phone Edition PPC is if I had a wireless headset (Jabra?) that was compact, rugged, had BlueTooth, and could easily slip into my pocket without getting broken...
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08-01-2002, 06:10 PM
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I think I am there with you on this Will. Not because I don't think converged devices will eventually win, but I cannot give up CF and my foldable keyboard. There is no phone device yet with those capabilities. :roll:
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08-01-2002, 06:29 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: Different Landscape - Maybe
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Originally Posted by willh
I don't know about you - but I'm more comfortable sticking with two devices - a phone and a PDA...
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Agreed ... but you can do this ... PPC with Bluetooth and an enabled phone (like Ericsson T68) ... works great ...
Although having been a blackberry fan for a long time (what it does - mail - it does very well), I'd still like to see a PPC with the Blackberry sync software ... that would be killer.
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08-01-2002, 06:35 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Re: Different Landscape - Maybe
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Originally Posted by GadgetDave
Although having been a blackberry fan for a long time (what it does - mail - it does very well), I'd still like to see a PPC with the Blackberry sync software ... that would be killer.
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I agree. Bringing push capability to a PPC could be the killer app (at least as far as the enterprise market goes).
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08-01-2002, 06:48 PM
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Intellectual
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Re: Different Landscape - Maybe
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Originally Posted by JR
I agree. Bringing push capability to a PPC could be the killer app (at least as far as the enterprise market goes).
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Yes indeed. I am seriously considering this device so that I can reduce the number of things on my Batman utility belt. The Phone/PDA will help bring that number down by one. However, since it doesn't do "push" e-mail, I will still be carrying my Motorola P-935 (wireless e-mail device with a thumb-keyboard; similar to a RIM Blackberry).
This looks like a great device, and I will most likely get one after you early adopters post a few reviews. However, I will be counting on the next release of the Phone Edition hardware/software to support push e-mail and a thumb keyboard.
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08-01-2002, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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I think this assumes a lot though. Smartphone COULD be a success; however, no one knows if it will ever ship in the quantity to get any momentum (as we know the carriers seem to be having some trouble with the software, etc.). Also, who really knows what usability, stability, battery life, etc. will be like.
PPC 2002 phone edition on the other hand is never going to be a big seller. The battery life is horrible and consumers want something smaller that at least approaches the form factor of a typical cell phone. The RIM combo units will have the same problem.
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08-01-2002, 08:10 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2002
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All I have to say is RIM? What? Who?
I had an alpha numeric pager in HS. AND YES, I DO KNOW ther is a difference. But Still RIM is just not a solution for me.
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08-01-2002, 08:42 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Feb 2002
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pressure from smartphone? What smartphone???
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08-01-2002, 08:52 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2002
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A couple of interesting additions:
First this story on InfoSync:
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2120.html
I find it really neat - segregate the functions, have a tiny wireless display with optional keyboard, a little headset, and the rest tucked away someplace.
The second is here:
http://www.dangerinfo.com/
About time too, I have been drooling over the Danger device for a long time. If only it had a color screen, but with a price point of around $200 I shouldn't really complain.
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