07-30-2002, 08:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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Windows CE.NET 4.1 ships
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-947180.html?tag=fd_top
As we told you yesterday, there were some updates announced to the Windows CE.NET platform this morning. Some of these items will be familiar to you. We told you about several items nearly a month ago. They are actually calling this Windows CE.NET 4.1, so it isn't minor bug fixes. I am pretty sure this is the project formerly code named Jameson.
Here are the highlights:
� Native document viewers for Microsoft Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Adobe Acrobat, GIF, BMP and JPG files
� IPv6
� Support for speech recognition
� Web browsing 15% faster than in CE.NET 4.0
� Windows Media Player is 20% faster than in CE.NET 4.0
The updated OS is available and shipping now. Remember that Pocket PCs are based on the Windows CE 3.0 platform, the predecessor to Windows CE.NET. I don't know when a Pocket PC will be released with CE.NET underneath though, or if it will be CE.NET 4.0, 4.1 or Macallan, also known as CE 5.0. Macallan is supposed to ship in early 2003. Both CE.NET and Windows CE 3.0 have features not supported by the Pocket PC, so just because you see it in the list above doesn't mean your new iPAQ 5000 will support it, but we can hope!  Thanks for all those that sent in the links to this and similar articles.
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07-30-2002, 08:37 PM
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Thinker
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NEC also said it plans to use the operating system in a new wireless handheld.
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07-30-2002, 08:43 PM
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Intellectual
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If a new version of PPC were based on 4.1 how would that effect the Xscale issue?
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07-30-2002, 08:45 PM
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Swami
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OK - so - new devices - when & what specs and will existing PPCs be able to upgrade to this? Any idea of ROM footprint - 32Mb or larger?
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07-30-2002, 08:49 PM
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Sage
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Originally Posted by dochall
If a new version of PPC were based on 4.1 how would that effect the Xscale issue?
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I am far from a platform expert, but I would think it would still have to be compiled for XScale (ARM v5 Architecture). If you compiled it for the old ARM architecture, you would still have the same general problems....
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07-30-2002, 08:57 PM
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Thinker
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CE.Net & X-Scale
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Originally Posted by pdadave
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Originally Posted by dochall
If a new version of PPC were based on 4.1 how would that effect the Xscale issue?
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I am far from a platform expert, but I would think it would still have to be compiled for XScale (ARM v5 Architecture). If you compiled it for the old ARM architecture, you would still have the same general problems.... |
You are correct, unless a platform is designed to be "forward compatible*" you would need a binary specific to your processor.
However, I don't think this will be an issue as the .NET architecture is processor independent. It's effectively Microsoft's version of Java. The .NET runtime is intended to run on a variety of processors, so you can. It follows that the underlying operating system would ALSO be available for multiple processors.
* To be "forward compatible" one would have to include legacy instructions alongside newer optimizations.
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07-30-2002, 08:58 PM
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Thinker
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Firewire ???
Does the new CE.NET natively support Firewire connectivity?
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07-30-2002, 09:18 PM
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Thinker
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Sounds to me like CE.Net 4.1 and beyond is being geared to take advantage of Xscale type Arm Processors.
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07-30-2002, 09:46 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Feb 2002
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I'm still confused.
With PPC 2002, PPC 2002 was supposedly the GUI and the apps in ROM, while CE 3.0 was the underlying OS. Now, with CE.NET, it sounds like CE.NET 4.1 is the underlying OS plus apps but without the GUI? I've never heard of such a thing.
Scott
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07-30-2002, 09:53 PM
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Executive Editor
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Originally Posted by Scott R
I'm still confused. With PPC 2002, PPC 2002 was supposedly the GUI and the apps in ROM, while CE 3.0 was the underlying OS. Now, with CE.NET, it sounds like CE.NET 4.1 is the underlying OS plus apps but without the GUI? I've never heard of such a thing.
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You're a Pocket PC Ponderer, and still confused? ;-) Think of it like this:
The Core OS team does whatever they want - they jam all sorts of things in there. They have all sorts of clients, from gas pump stations running CE to cow milkers to Pocket PCs. The Pocket PC team is just another client of theirs. The Pocket PC team takes the Core OS, rips it apart, then puts it back together again in their own special way with their own GUI, apps, etc.
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