06-24-2002, 05:17 PM
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More info on the Dell PDA
http://www.itworld.com/Comp/1235/020624dellhandheld/
"Dell Computer Corp. is planning its first foray into the handheld market and has been negotiating with several Taiwanese original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) to produce a higher-end product to gun against rivals Toshiba Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co., reports this week indicate."
Seems to be less and less of a rumor. It makes total sense though. "However, HP is phasing out its line of Jornada handhelds now that it has acquired Compaq Computer Corp. Instead, HP will push Compaq's iPAQ line of handhelds. Given that Dell and Compaq are long-time rivals, it is unlikely that Dell would want to resell Compaq-designed handhelds and may be looking for a similar branded PDA with which it can compete. "The 'new HP' is clearly the target here," said Ars senior analyst for mobile computing Matt Sargent, who worked with Bhavnani on the report."
So Dude, are you getting a Dell? 
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06-24-2002, 05:37 PM
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You know, though, one of the main things that Dell has been able to bring to me as a customer is its ability to help me define my needs and offer a customized PC. For their success with PCs to directly translate into success with PDAs I wonder if that customization component will be necessary. And I wonder how possible it would be to offer "customized" Pocket PCs.
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06-24-2002, 05:52 PM
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Although I love my Jornada, I have high hopes for an offering by Dell. I've used their servers and desktops for years and they are the only company (maybe except for Penguin Servers) that I've dealt with that I have a positive feeling about. I hate my HP desktops (they are very poor performers) and I equally hated our Compaq webservers (always had OS problems due to strange motherboard configurations). But alas, I realize that as those two comments illustrate, companies don't always make good products across the board so I won't be the first to buy a Dell.
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06-24-2002, 06:00 PM
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The problem, as I see it, is that when it comes to corporate sales Dell seem to have a very good rep. Dealing with individual users, however, they don't seem to care much. This is based only on what I've heard - it may be that others have heard very different.
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06-24-2002, 06:14 PM
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Maybe this is just what we need for Pocket PC to take full lead in the corporate market, bringing more applications and accessories, and transforming it into a standard that will surely go over the border to the consumer market.
I am hoping the rumour is true. I think it will be great for the market.
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06-24-2002, 06:16 PM
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Agreed. It can only be a good thing.
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06-24-2002, 07:22 PM
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Two comments ...
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The author of this article is outright dense. He keeps alluding to Dell and Intel as a reason for adopting X-Scale. The fact is that there is really no other choice out there right now for PocketPC (TI's implementation isn't ready yet).
Furthermore, I found the allusion to Compaq and Dell as rivals to be a silly analysis. The reason Dell doesn't sell iPaq, is because they're unreliable and high maintenance. Dell makes it's living satisfying the needs of corporate IT. The patch heavy, accesory dependent, easy to break iPaq hardly fits this model.
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HP's abandonment of the Jornada line is an invitation to Dell. They carried these handhelds because of their size, practicality and mature styling (not a handheld boy-racer toy).
I would expect an offering from Dell to include an integrated lid, CF, a swappable battery and Bluetooth. In other words, it will be alot like the forsaken Jornada 570 ;-)
HP's assumption that Jornada users will fall over and "tow the line" is ridiculous. They claim a market share that includes both iPaq AND Jornada. They don't realize that Jornada customers wholeheartedly reject the overworked iPaq concept. Furthermore, the market is beginning to reject it as well. Toshiba is starting to eat into iPaq's market dominance as they introduce far more FUNCTIONAL, INTEGRATED units that are smaller that the base iPaq. That doesn't even begin to factor iPaq with it's iBrick attachments.
HP is going to be slaughtered this year in EVERYTHING EXCEPT printers. The HP-aq merger is the antitheses of synergy. The two is far LESS than the sum of there parts. Especially considering they're choosing all those bad parts from Compaq.
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06-24-2002, 07:46 PM
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MUST KILL THE DUDE! MUST KILL THE DUDE!
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06-24-2002, 08:28 PM
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Re: Two comments ...
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Originally Posted by Will T Smith
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Dell makes it's living satisfying the needs of corporate IT. The patch heavy, accesory dependent, easy to break iPaq hardly fits this model.
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They carried these handhelds because of their size, practicality and mature styling (not a handheld boy-racer toy).
I would expect an offering from Dell to include an integrated lid, CF, a swappable battery and Bluetooth. In other words, it will be alot like the forsaken Jornada 570 ;-)
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Just got to thinking...if Dell really does like the stability and other factors of the Jornada, why not just hire the canned Singapore team that developed it?
-- Paul
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06-24-2002, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncan
The problem, as I see it, is that when it comes to corporate sales Dell seem to have a very good rep. Dealing with individual users, however, they don't seem to care much. This is based only on what I've heard - it may be that others have heard very different.
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It seems to make sense that Dell would go after the corporate market. Even in the article it says----
"According to the Ars report, Dell is most likely looking to round out its product line aimed at enterprise customers......"
In this case, it doesn't seem that the consumer is who they are targeting.
As for me, I am taking a wait and see attitude. Dell doesn't always 'hit the bullseye' (pun intended) even with their PCs. It is great to see Dell getting into the market though, regardless of their product offering(s).
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