05-06-2002, 07:04 PM
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My kingdom for a Jog Dial
I've always been a big fan of the Jog Dial found on Sony PDAs - it has a very tactile feeling that I find easy to use, and allows for a greater level of control. I always wondered why I hadn't seen any Pocket PC OEM offering a similar solution, and now I know why.
When I was at CeBit, I talked to someone with Fujitsu-Siemens who had worked on the LOOX project. He was also a big fan of the Sony Jog Dial, and he said they were interested in using it, until they discovered how expensive it was for them to license the patented technology from Sony. My hunch is that Sony has priced the licensing out of reach for every OEM, thus ensuring that only Sony devices will have that technology.
I don't know about you, but I find that very frustrating. The Jog Dial is a simple usability enhancement that would make all PDAs easier to use, but Sony has determined to keep it for themselves. Are there any non-Sony PDAs out there using the Jog Dial? I'd love to be proven wrong.
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05-06-2002, 07:10 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Jog-dial
A regular Logitech mouse has something akin to a jog-dial, why not use that technology?
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05-06-2002, 07:12 PM
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Pontificator
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Jog-dial
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Originally Posted by torring
A regular Logitech mouse has something akin to a jog-dial, why not use that technology?
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Are you talking about the scroll wheel? Those require too much internal space to ever fit into a PDA. That's what makes Sony's Jogdial technology so innovative.
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05-06-2002, 07:12 PM
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Executive Editor
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Jog-dial
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Originally Posted by torring
A regular Logitech mouse has something akin to a jog-dial, why not use that technology?
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My hunch is that Sony has a patent for technology like that on a PDA...
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05-06-2002, 07:49 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: May 2002
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What about Casio?
My Casio E105 has a great jog dial. Who says it has to come from Sony?
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05-06-2002, 07:53 PM
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What about Casio?
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Originally Posted by GeneDoc
My Casio E105 has a great jog dial. Who says it has to come from Sony?
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The Sony Jog Dials rotate all the way through, with a nice tactile click - no Pocket PC on the market, including the Casio, has that. The Casio has a nicer solution than the up/down buttons on my HP 565, but I really love the Sony solution...hence the post. :-)
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05-06-2002, 07:53 PM
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Pontificator
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What about Casio?
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Originally Posted by GeneDoc
My Casio E105 has a great jog dial. Who says it has to come from Sony?
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The jogdial on your Casio is not full travel. It just slides up and down.
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05-06-2002, 07:55 PM
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Damn Dunn bumped right into me! :lol:
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05-06-2002, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
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Correct me if I'm wrong...
But doesn't the RIM blackberry use a jog wheel / scroll wheel in their devices?
I've got the BB but no Sony so I'm not sure if I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but the RIM certainly has a scroll wheel with a nice click to it, much like my wheel mouse.
Morgan
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05-06-2002, 08:20 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: May 2002
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RE: Casio's dial
Ok, it doesn't go all the way around, but I still think it is a great solution for single-hand reading. Too bad my iPaq doesn't anything like it.
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