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Old 02-06-2008, 02:00 PM
Adam Krebs
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Default Use Zune Marketplace Backend with MP3Tag

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://a-simian-mind.blogspot.com/2008/02/zune-marketplace-as-mp3tag-source.html' target='_blank'>http://a-simian-mind.blogspot.com/2...tag-source.html</a><br /><br /></div><p>&quot;<em>Given that the current (and past) Zune software lacks any decent metadata editing I've been using </em><a target="_blank" href="http://www.mp3tag.de/en/"><em>Mp3tag</em></a><em> to adjust the various tags as well as grab album art.&nbsp; One cool feature of Mp3tag is that you can look up album information from a variety of online sources, most notably Amazon.&nbsp; From there you can grab track listings and album art to help flush out your metadata.Only problem is that sometimes the Zune Marketplace files an album differently than Amazon[...].&nbsp; After poking around with Mp3tag's extensible &quot;web sources framework&quot; and using Fiddler to watch the HTTP traffic to and from zune.net I cobbled together a Zune source that will pull down the exact album information as listed on the Marketplace as well as the album art.</em>&quot;</p><br /><p><a target="_blank" href="http://a-simian-mind.blogspot.com/">Shawn Oster</a> points out how easy it is to hook the backend of the Zune marketplace into MP3Tag to get properly tagged and recognized files. He also points out that this could be helpful in getting Social to recognize the songs you play (though I'm not convinced of his argument that Social takes the album metadata from your computer--I'm pretty sure that comes from their servers). </p><br /><p>He brings up another cool tidbit: &quot;<em>zune.net just made their 800x800 album art available via the back-end service I'm using so now you can grab full 800x800 album art even on tracks you didn't purchase directly from the Marketplace. Just download </em><a target="_blank" href="http://enginefour.com/downloads/Marketplace.zip"><em>Marketplace.zip</em></a><em> and extract the single Marketplace.src into your %appdata%Mp3tagdatasources folder and you'll be rocking! I'd also suggest you </em><a target="_blank" href="http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=57"><em>download the very latest</em></a><em> beta of Mp3tag because the tag sources (what Marketplace plugs into) dialog is much easier to figure out for first timers, plus I always include the artist in the track listing and version 2.39n supports splitting this into the correct tags.</em>&quot;</p>
 
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:04 PM
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I'll have o check outMP3Tag. I've been a loyal user of QCD for years and I love the tag editing's tie-in with Gracenote. But now since I'm a Zune fanboy, I need a good, standalone tag editor.

I agree the Zune software needs better tag editing. Nothing's more annoying to me than poorly tagged and named media files.

Thanks for the tip!

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Old 02-06-2008, 06:54 PM
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okay...so i tried it out for a little while only issue that i have is that after all the song titles it adds a "/" and then the artist's name...

kinda redundant since on the zune device it has the artists name right below the title...
 
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:10 PM
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I haven't tried MP3tag, but Media Monkey works really well!
 
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:20 AM
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okay...so i tried it out for a little while only issue that i have is that after all the song titles it adds a "/" and then the artist's name...
The reason for the "/" is to handle "Various Artists" style albums like soundtracks or compilations. To get rid of it you need to use the latest 2.39n version of Mp3tag and in the lower-left hand corner click "Utils" then the first option is "Compilation". This will split the track and artist and now your tracks will be tagged with the correct artist.

I'm still toying with this and I may add a second web source just for "Compilation Albums" so you don't always have to deal with the "/".

In fact... I think I will to prevent any future confusion
 
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:27 AM
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okay...so i tried it out for a little while only issue that i have is that after all the song titles it adds a "/" and then the artist's name...
Redownload the Marketplace.zip, I've updated it to have two different sources, if you're just looking up an album use Marketplace > Album, if you're tagging a compilation or soundtrack do Marketplace > Compilation Album.
 
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:48 AM
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Woot! gonna download it right now!

Edit: Yeah, now i'm pretty sure that this is gonna take the place of tag&rename for all my audio metadata needs now...Thanks!

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Old 03-02-2008, 05:24 PM
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Just a note, Mp3tag 2.4 was released last week so no need to scurry about trying to find the most recent beta development build.
 
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