Zune hardware is to far behind the curve at this point. Let lose a Zune api for hardware manufactures and make it free. They need heavy market penetration by the end of the year. And with no app for win mo insight until at least mid 2010 Zune is a sinking ship. I don't think a Zune Touch would appeal to anyone at this point either as there are already plenty of niche touch players (or soon to be P3, Sony x1000 to name a few) that can fill that need. MS development life cycle is to long and way to fractured. It's sad, I liked what Zune was doing for a while.