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Janak Parekh
12-20-2002, 10:08 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.gamespy.com/holiday2002/hardware/index16.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespy.com/holiday2002/...e/index16.shtml</a><br /><br /></div>We've all seen people call your PPC a "PalmPilot". For once, someone did it <i>backwards</i>: on this page, two different Palms are lumped into the Pocket PC category. Finally! :D<br /><br />Anyone have interesting anecdotes on this topic that we haven't seen before?

freitasm
12-20-2002, 10:30 PM
Well, PC is not something running MS OS only... Personal Computers are a type of computers. Macs are PC. Amigas are PC.

Palm would better be qualified as PDA, or handheld computers, since so many functions can be added to them.

Pocket PC is not wrong, from this point of view, since Palms can have a form factor similar to the Pocket PC (as in PPC).

But I'd say the article is wrong, as you pointed...

Andy Sjostrom
12-20-2002, 10:38 PM
Woohoo! :D

billboonn
12-20-2002, 10:38 PM
http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=1056187&nav=0RZFCzVY

Jewish Hospital To Open Ultra High-Tech Facility
The new facility will utilize technology like never before. Physicians will carry pocket PC devices -- Palm Pilots -- and cables throughout the facility will download patient information into those Palm Pilots anywhere in the building.

So is it a Palm or Pocket PC?? -- Goes to show that many people in the media still have NO idea what they're talking about.

:roll:

Bill

Sslixtis
12-20-2002, 10:42 PM
LOL, Finally! I don't know how many times someone has called my PPC a Palm Pilot!

They no longer make that mistake at work though. No matter how busy I am or what I'm doing if someone calls my PPC a Palm Pilot I will stop and give them the ENTIRE PPC list of virtues and why it is NOT a Palm Pilot! :twisted: :lol: You can hear the groans of everyone around me when someone new makes that fatal mistake, they have all heard the PPC speach atleast 100 times. :crazyeyes:

It is much better these days though, almost everyone has made the switch from Palm to PPC.

MooseMaster
12-21-2002, 04:06 AM
This isn't something I'd want publicized. Someone mistaking a bleak and featureless Palm as a PocketPC? I'm embarassed :(

cherring
12-21-2002, 09:00 AM
- one episode of ER this guy said he has a palm adn it is clearly an ipaq.

knoppi
12-21-2002, 09:04 AM
Uh, again this bad discussion. I can´t hear this "My PPC is much more better than a Palm" any longer and on this site its very bad. I don´t know why but all professional guys I know are using both ... a ppc for navigation e.g. and a Palm for the other stuff. And they never would join this kind of "discussion".

Have a look on what "Palm" means. Sure you can call a PPC a Palmtop for example. And my Macs here are PC´s ... Sorry, now you can blame me because I am NOT using - and never will use - Windows for a cell phone or Desktop PC.

Jonathon Watkins
12-21-2002, 01:06 PM
I can´t hear this "My PPC is much more better than a Palm" any longer and on this site its very bad.
No, it's very good, which is why you don't like it. :P

...all professional guys I know are using both ... a ppc for navigation e.g. and a Palm for the other stuff.
Hmmmm, rich with lots of time are they? Two different devices types to juggle & use. Lovely. :?

...And they never would join this kind of "discussion".
Why, they obviously have a lot of time to spend? :?:

Have a look on what "Palm" means.
It means a handheld computer made by the company called “Palm”. :lol:

Sure you can call a PPC a Palmtop for example.
Nope, you can’t. Sorry. :D

And my Macs here are PC´s
Riiiiiight. And your apples are called oranges and you think that the US is called Australia? 8)

Sorry, now you can blame me
OK. :twisted:

…because I am NOT using - and never will use - Windows for a cell phone or Desktop PC.

Your call, or rather, not. :wink:

freitasm
12-21-2002, 02:26 PM
And my Macs here are PC´s
Riiiiiight. And your apples are called oranges and you think that the US is called Australia? 8)

I agree... PC is abbreviation for Personal Computer. If it's a Mac, or Intel based running a MS OS, or Other computer, it doesn't matter: it's still a Personal Computer.

bjornkeizers
12-21-2002, 04:42 PM
Hmmmm, rich with lots of time are they? Two different devices types to juggle & use. Lovely. :?

Hey! Watch it, I might start taking that comment seriously! :lol:

I actually use three devices: A Palm IIIC, a Jornada 565 and a Psion Revo.

I use the PPC for the good stuff: reading books, playing some Quake.. I got a lot of documents on there.. it's a great device. We all know that.. we all have one.

I use the Palm because it's simple: I have a lot of memory [yes, 8mb is a lot of memory in a Palm] and it's more then enough for 50 or so games, a couple books, some nice utils. You can't believe the kinds of **** I can do with the palm.. even more then the PPC thanks to a little thing called "Hacks" Flip the polarity of the screen/backlight? You got it! Pop up calculator with a single stroke? Sure! Change the fonts? Flip the screen 90 degrees or even upside down? I can do that too! There's lots of free software for the Palm. Plus, it's an easy to use device. Sure it's limited.. but do I really need all that functionality the PPC has all the time? No. I used a lot a palms before buying a PPC. Does that mean i'll get rid of the palms because they're simple devices? Heck no!

As for the Psion.. I don't know why the hell I bought that one.. but OK. I have it, it's charged and waiting for me to find a use for it.

Let the flaming begin!

JvanEkris
12-21-2002, 08:11 PM
Well,

I went for simplicity. I want ONE machine to do it all: PIM, Navigation, MP3Player, the works. As a professional IT-specialist, i hat juggling with more than one machine because i obey the first rule of database management: "avoid duplication of volatile information". Two devices ? No way ! It is the first step towards disater: oh sorry, that document is in my other PDA...

It became one, and one that does it all: the pocket PC (the Loox in my case :)). The Palm is simply too lightweight for me.

Jaap

Janak Parekh
12-21-2002, 11:02 PM
Hmm... I smell another flamewar brewing. Let's try and keep this polite, and avoid a Palm vs. Pocket PC contest, shall we? (I can point you to a couple hundred of them, if you really feel the need to get back into that.)

On terminology: I'm pretty sure "Palm" is not a generic term. No organizer prior to the Palm III was ever called a "Palm", even the Pilot 1000's. The correct generic term, IMHO, is "PDA".

Also, while "PC" is a generic term, it's not really a good one - the blur between "personal" and "business" computer has essentially made the term useless, and it's been relegated to mostly x86 boxes. "Computer" works just fine, IMHO. :)

--janak

Jason Dunn
12-22-2002, 05:10 PM
I agree... PC is abbreviation for Personal Computer. If it's a Mac, or Intel based running a MS OS, or Other computer, it doesn't matter: it's still a Personal Computer.

While that's technically true, the rest of the world doesn't see it that way - there are two types of computers to Joe Consumer "PC" and "MAC". I've yet to hear "I run a Microsoft Windows-based x86 personal computer - and you?" :roll: :lol:

Jonathon Watkins
12-22-2002, 07:27 PM
Funnily enough bjornkeizers, I too have three PDAs – a Palm IIIC, a Psion Revo and a FS LOOX. I hope to add a Dell Axim to that list soon.

But, while I own them – I only actually use one device at the moment – the PPC. I quite agree with JvanEkris, "avoid duplication of volatile information” – very true. It is a real PITA to manage three different device types. Data keeps being corrupted and going missing etc. :roll:

Again, I would agree with Janak, the generic terms are “PDA” and “Computer”.

No Flame wars here. :lol: I was just takeing issue abwith that of flame-bait knoppi posted. :wink:

Zuph
12-24-2002, 01:19 PM
http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=1056187&nav=0RZFCzVY

Jewish Hospital To Open Ultra High-Tech Facility
The new facility will utilize technology like never before. Physicians will carry pocket PC devices -- Palm Pilots -- and cables throughout the facility will download patient information into those Palm Pilots anywhere in the building.

So is it a Palm or Pocket PC?? -- Goes to show that many people in the media still have NO idea what they're talking about.


My Dad is actually working at Jewish hospital, remodeling their facilities and such. According to him, they're using tablet PCs and WinCE based Handhelds with a propreitary interface on them. Jewish just went through remodeling a few years back, and their throwing out all these NICE 15 and 17 inch LCDs, Fairly new computers, and a whole lot of expensive networking stuff. They're non-profit, so they can afford to. Thing is, they HAVE to be destroyed. They can't be resold, otherwise, I'd have 3 or 4 LCDs on my desk right now :)

Also, They didn't have ONE of the Tablets or Handhelds missing while workers were in the building, but the first day employees were there, 9 were stolen :roll:

rave
01-07-2003, 02:32 AM
I was showing my new iPAQ to a cousin in a family reunion:

"Is that your new PDA?"
"Yep. Just got it two weeks ago."
"It looks nice. But why didn't you get a Clie?"
"Errr... I like this one better."

In another encounter with another cousin:

"Is that your new PDA?"
"Yep. Just got it two weeks ago."
"Why didn't you get a Handspring?"

Yes, yes. Whatever you say. :P