11-28-2005, 09:38 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: I expect better from an editor
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Originally Posted by IcemanMN
Nokia just released a Linux phone. Why did they do that? No one at this website would be able to answer that question.
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um... more market share, more profit? nah, nokia wants to make cute little penguin shaped phones (patent pending).
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11-28-2005, 11:05 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I love how in the end he thanked the font he used. Freaking hilarious.
P.S. - Lighten up people! It wasted your time? Did you think it had a link to a Linux distro? On a PPC site? You clicked on it for some reason. Did you really think that whatever the link contained would be so essential that you would use your precious time on it? And then you're mad that it was a joke? Puh-lease.
"This flash animation does not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of Thoughts Media Inc., it's owner, editors or readers."
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11-29-2005, 01:37 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by paschott
On a related note, I know people who really worked hard to make those *n*x commands work in DOS,
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So do I: they're called Microsoft. :wink:
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12-02-2005, 10:07 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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wooow... the last time i heard this casio tune was 15 years ago.
Anyways, i don't find too bad to be communist, in fact ms is capitalist and in this page you can find it in the upper banner, in the left banner, in your os, in your keyboard, in your pda... so communist or capitalist make no difference, they decided and you must obey... :roll: at least a commy program can be for free.
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12-02-2005, 10:24 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 450
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Originally Posted by Magallanes
wooow... the last time i heard this casio tune was 15 years ago.
Anyways, i don't find too bad to be communist, in fact ms is capitalist and in this page you can find it in the upper banner, in the left banner, in your os, in your keyboard, in your pda... so communist or capitalist make no difference, they decided and you must obey... :roll: at least a commy program can be for free.
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I have that casio thingey somewhere and it still works from AC power....
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12-02-2005, 11:07 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4
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A few facts
So I am a little bothered by the SWF and by the responses in the forums it is obvious that there is some misunderstanding about linux. I hope that the SWF was old, because its information is.
1) Linux is more of a base than an actual OS. It consists of the kernel and a small set of utilities. This is known as LSB. NO ONE uses LSB as an OS. The OS (ie Redhat, knoppix, etc.) is the LSB plus thousands of other things.
Therefore it is ignorant to say "Linux is like this..."
2) Virtually ALL of the *nix OSes automount drives and come with a MUCH more robust printing system than is even available on XP. Unlike windows, most printers are supported out of the box (no driver CD needed).
3) Graphically, you have to spend money to have the visual shell tools for MS that come standard on KDE or Gnome. I wish my XP looked as nice as my SuSE does.
4) Windows (and DOS) command shell is a joke. Even MS knows that. Shell scripting is WAY better for certain applications than GUI. GUI is better for some things though. (MS is creating a more robust shell which is supposed to be released some time after vista)
On a personal note, I am a libertarian and I support open-source. No one is compelled to follow it and there is no communal ownership, so the communism thread is pretty ignorant, but it appears most here are bove that.
Oh, and the placement of configuration files instead of windows registry is one of the greatest parts of linux. It is very well organized, and much easier to navigate and read. I think the only reason MS uses its registry is that it gives them a place to keep the user out of control.
I thought it was a little funny, but mostly dumb (and way old).
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12-02-2005, 11:37 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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Re: A few facts
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Originally Posted by Agentcdog
1) Linux is more of a base than an actual OS. It consists of the kernel and a small set of utilities. This is known as LSB. NO ONE uses LSB as an OS. The OS (ie Redhat, knoppix, etc.) is the LSB plus thousands of other things.
Therefore it is ignorant to say "Linux is like this..."
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http://www.linux.org/
"Linux is a free Unix-type operating system..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
"Linux is a computer operating system and its kernel."
And this file was a joke, not meant to be taken seriously. Still, it is only funny because a lot of it is true.
And this might have something to do with why Windows sells so well to average people - http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html#01
Where would you even begin to do that if you were an average Joe. :confused totally:
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12-03-2005, 12:43 PM
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Pupil
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Re: A few facts
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Originally Posted by Agentcdog
3) Graphically, you have to spend money to have the visual shell tools for MS that come standard on KDE or Gnome. I wish my XP looked as nice as my SuSE does.
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It's quite shocking to see how primitive the windoze GUI is. Heck, my Amiga way back in 1993 had a more advanced GUI with auto-focus, auto-raise, multiple desktops etc. Yet here we are in the 21st century and windoze still lacks the features that was so last century.
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Oh, and the placement of configuration files instead of windows registry is one of the greatest parts of linux. It is very well organized, and much easier to navigate and read. I think the only reason MS uses its registry is that it gives them a place to keep the user out of control.
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The windoze registry is a pathetic mess. Want to migrate your application settings? Good luck trying to find the hundreds of places where a typical windoze app might hide its settings in the registry. With Linux apps, settings are typically located in just two places: "/etc" for system wide settings, and "~/" for personal settings.
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12-03-2005, 08:22 PM
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Editor Emeritus
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Re: A few facts
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Originally Posted by Agentcdog
2) Virtually ALL of the *nix OSes automount drives and come with a MUCH more robust printing system than is even available on XP. Unlike windows, most printers are supported out of the box (no driver CD needed).
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No no no NO. I strongly disagree with this. lpr, lprng, CUPS - they all suck. Badly. I've set up UNIX printing for years and I still hate it. If you mean by "most printers" being Postscript printers, you're correct, otherwise print support is very hit-and-miss in my experience (largely due to vendors using proprietary protocols, of course). And automounting is still flaky, even with very recent Linux distributions. I'd still much rather mount/umount by hand.
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3) Graphically, you have to spend money to have the visual shell tools for MS that come standard on KDE or Gnome. I wish my XP looked as nice as my SuSE does.
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Eh -- KDE 3.4, with FC4, is the first KDE I felt looked really polished and supported broad OS configurations and features. And I've been using KDE since v1 came out. Nevermind the lack of integration, L&F, etc. between apps and the shell. Recent versions are better, but there's still a long way to go. OS X beats both Linux and Windows by a mile right now.
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4) Windows (and DOS) command shell is a joke. Even MS knows that. Shell scripting is WAY better for certain applications than GUI. GUI is better for some things though. (MS is creating a more robust shell which is supposed to be released some time after vista)
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Right - I have a huge bash profile that autodetects the host I'm on and sets up a bunch of things. The upcoming MSH (so called "Monad SHell") is very interesting, and it's about time.
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Oh, and the placement of configuration files instead of windows registry is one of the greatest parts of linux. It is very well organized, and much easier to navigate and read. I think the only reason MS uses its registry is that it gives them a place to keep the user out of control.
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It is, simultaneously, one of the greatest and worst things about UNIX. The lack of a single configuration standard makes interapp communication far more difficult. On the other hand, it is very robust to power failure or corruption, and thank god we've mostly gotten rid of sendmail configs in modern distros. OS X, which is my current daily driver, falls somewhere in the middle, with at least the use of a common plist format.
--janak
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12-07-2005, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Arrggh.. It was just a joke! Laugh (if you thought it was funny) or ignore it otherwise. Why is there suddenly a really serious Linux/Windows discussion with all the acronyms and technical details (that make regular people run in the other direction when they hear 'Linux') :twisted:
I thought it was funny so... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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