09-30-2009, 01:04 AM
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4.0 bricks 1st and 2nd generation Zunes
According to the MS Zune forums, and Engadget, many 1st and 2nd generation Zunes are being bricked by the Version 4.0 software, resulting in many taking drastic measures to try and ressurect their Zunes. Little success reported.
This is what I've come to expect from the Zune team, nothing more, nothing less. Same old crap.
Paul
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09-30-2009, 02:36 AM
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Upgraded 3, no problem. A 30G, and 8 and an 80.
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09-30-2009, 06:11 PM
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I've had no problem....and why would you expect this? If nothing the else, the Zune has always worked well.
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09-30-2009, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Tucker
I've had no problem....and why would you expect this? If nothing the else, the Zune has always worked well.
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When you say it has always worked, you must be speaking of your own experiences. Good for you!
Go to the MS Zune forums. MS admits there is a problem with 4.0 and promises a patch. There are people reporting problems on this forum as well. I guess you did not see the Engadget post either.
I helped them debug problems with an earlier version over a two week period. This was also a driver problem.
IMHO version 3.1 is the most stable of all so far.
Paul
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09-30-2009, 06:45 PM
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When I say always worked, I refer to the fact that in 3 years of owning a Zune, it has always worked. Its not good if they have an issue now but the only other firmware related issue I know of was the whole time change thing.
Their track record is pretty good.
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10-01-2009, 02:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundMix
When you say it has always worked, you must be speaking of your own experiences. Good for you!
Go to the MS Zune forums. MS admits there is a problem with 4.0 and promises a patch. There are people reporting problems on this forum as well. I guess you did not see the Engadget post either.
I helped them debug problems with an earlier version over a two week period. This was also a driver problem.
IMHO version 3.1 is the most stable of all so far.
Paul
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Well that is a bit different than your original post, which paraphrased is Zune is crap and always was. I would wonder if 3.0 had some issues that 3.1 fixed, making it the most stable ever. I would expect a 4.1.
BTW Apple's 3.0 has had some issues as has 3.01 and 3.1, so updates can have some issues that appear once the broader release hits the world. Unlikely that the 99% with no problems are going to speak up, so all you hear are the issues.
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10-01-2009, 05:01 PM
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FWIW... My son's Brown 30 hasn't been working since the upgrade. After a few seconds of use (usually no more than 30), it freezes then reboots itself.
I'm not, however, convinced it's a firmware problem. This Zune is old and has been tossed around a lot. I suspect it is just as likely a hard drive problem.
He's using my old 80 now (since I got the HD), and I'll be playing around with the 30 to see if I can get it going.
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10-02-2009, 01:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sven
Well that is a bit different than your original post, which paraphrased is Zune is crap and always was. I would wonder if 3.0 had some issues that 3.1 fixed, making it the most stable ever. I would expect a 4.1.
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Perhaps I should have worded this differently. The Zune hardware is not crap. The Zune team is unable/unwilling to create software that is compatible with WMC/WMP. And their beta program (Version 4.0) leaves much to be desired...crappy. Buggy softweare is one thing, turning Zunes into bricks is far more serious. The recent Engadget poll suggest 1 out of 5, or 20% of Zune users are having software/firmware problems. Not a scientific poll, but way more than the 1% you suggest.
And who cares about Apples, Ipods, or ITunes. Not me.
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09-30-2009, 06:12 PM
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I upgraded two, an 80GB and a 4GB. I had firmware and file problems with the 80GB. I was able to fix these myself with an hour of fiddling. Not good!
Paul
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10-02-2009, 01:44 AM
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I guess it must sound like I'm not a MS fan or Zune fan. Actually I'm a big MS fan, and I like my Zune. I am dissappointed that the Zune has so many shortcomings and software installation issues. The blame for this I feel is the Zune team.
If we don't voice our displeasure and concern, the Zune team has little reason other than Ipod to improve. I for one do not like the direction the Zune team is taking the Zune. No large capacity, no models with buttons, proprietary software ( ala IPOD), no WMC DRM support, no EQ on Zune, no OGG support, no drag and drop, no file storage support, drm music files. I don't need Social, DJ, Quickplay, or Marketplace except for Podcasts, they should be removable options from the menus. I'm sure others can chime in on their likes/dislikes. Let's let the Zune team know how we feel.
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