Gruber Shares Gripes With Safari 4

[Vincent Ferrari]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://daringfireball.net/2009/03/safari_4_public_beta' target='_blank'>http://daringfireball.net/2009/03/s...i_4_public_beta</a><br /><br /></div><p><em>"Safari started life in 2003 as a fast browser, at least by the then-low standards of Mac OS X web browsing, and it has gotten nothing but faster since. I fully expect other high-quality browsers like Firefox and Chrome to leapfrog ahead as they reach future milestones. What really matters isn&rsquo;t whether Safari is the fastest web browser in the world, but simply that its performance, in actual use, is state-of-the-art. Prior to Safari, this just wasn&rsquo;t true for any Mac web browser. The difference Safari and WebKit have wrought to web browsing (and HTML web view rendering system-wide) simply cannot be overstated. And so in a nut, the latest version of WebKit deserves nothing but accolades; but Safari 4? Well, we have some issues."</em></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/at/auto/1236260322.usr18053.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p>Most of his problems with Safari seem like minor quibbles that would be utterly transparent to 90% of the users.&nbsp; I do agree with him on the UI inconsistencies (including some things that were changed since Safari 3 for no apparent reason), but I don't think that's a big deal.&nbsp; For all we know, they're changing again in Snow Leopard and this is a preview of how things are going to be.</p><p>The one thing I'm totally sick of hearing about, though, is the damn progress bar in the address bar.&nbsp; Okay people, we get it.&nbsp; It's been over a week already.&nbsp; Either stop using Safari 4, put the damn thing back by hacking it in, or shut up!&nbsp; Seriously!&nbsp; I've never heard so much whinging over one stupid little feature.</p>

[Macguy59]

Kind of like how some people obsess over favicons :p I'm going to back to S3 because S4 'feels' slow to me.

[Vincent Ferrari]

Kind of like how some people obsess over favicons :p I'm going to back to S3 because S4 'feels' slow to me.

Touché. :D

[doogald]

I'm really getting to like Safari 4, but I agree with him on the progress bar. Safari was unique with that, and the current spinner (and the reload control as well) just are not as good.

[encece]

I like it. So much that I stopped using Firefox. Maybe I just have lower expectations or am satisfied more easily.

[Phronetix]

I am liking it. I really like Top Sites a lot. It has replaced my use of the bookmarks bar. Never imagined my surfing was so restricted to a few sites.

As far as the progress bar goes... I wonder if that had to do with Apple moving away from the Aqua interface.

What I do not like is the Refresh button being on the right side of the address bar. I asked Apple to keep it though, as long as they maybe made clicking on the favicon act as refresh. I thought that would suffice.

As far as those complaining, just use S3.

Dennis

[doogald]

What I do not like is the Refresh button being on the right side of the address bar. I asked Apple to keep it though, as long as they maybe made clicking on the favicon act as refresh. I thought that would suffice.


Cmd-R is usually so much easier.