View Full Version : How Would You Change Windows Mobile 6?
Paul Martin
06-28-2007, 01:30 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/how-would-you-change-windows-mobile-6/' target='_blank'>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/...ndows-mobile-6/</a><br /><br /></div><i>"While some of you have no doubt been running Windows Mobile 6 for a few months or more already (thanks, XDA developers!), the majority of the world is just recently getting its first taste of Microsoft's latest mobile operating system from new devices like the Sprint Mogul and updates to others like the T-Mobile Dash. The critics have certainly been, um, critical of the new OS, to say the least -- "evolutionary, not revolutionary" seems to be the general consensus -- but until we're allowed to behold the glorious light that is Photon, it's the best we've got for now. Still, while WM6 has beefed up Office support and arguably improved the tethering sitch, there are a number of issues that users have been griping about for years which have curiously yet to be addressed. ...so, what do you think: what could Redmond have done differently this time around?"</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/images/paxton-06262007-wm6.jpg" /><br /><br />While I won't hold my breath that Dell will be releasing Windows Mobile 6 for my Axim, some of you have been using it for a while. Though there have been some improvements, it's not quite the leap some may have wanted. If you've had a chance to use Windows Mobile 6, what shortcomings have you found? As Pete Paxon over at <a href="http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,14841">Smartphone Thoughts</a> suggests, <i>"could it be that MS doesn't include certain functions so developers can create these programs instead?"</i> Interesting question. So, how about you? Anything you absolutely need changing or are the third-party applications enough?
BobbyCannon
06-28-2007, 03:06 PM
Edit: I thought the title said "Would you change to Windows Mobile 6"...
I would in a second! The problem is that there's not an upgrade path for existing phones / pda. I get so frustrated. After a couple of months with my new fancy spiffy device a new Window Mobile comes outs and I can't upgrade unless I buy a whole new device. Now your just simply out of date...
I wish these devices allowed us (customers) to install the latest WM. Hopefully in the future the devices will become more flexibly like the PC.
extravagant
06-28-2007, 04:16 PM
The one thing I would change for msn live messenger is the fact that when you first try to sign in, it puts your contacts into your address book, so if u have 300 contacts, it adds an extra 300 contacts, even if they are redundant it still adds them! Then, if you delete the contacts from your address book, they're then GONE from your msn messenger list ! Which is wrong! What if a guest wants to sign in? Also, if that happenes to anyone, just login from your PC, go to tools > options > privacy tab > right click each person in the list and click add to contact list!
SkyBoy
06-28-2007, 05:14 PM
#1 thing to change, why did they make the left softkey in Calendar the "Reply" button?!?!?!?!? there is no "reply" function in the calendar! why did they waste the softkey on a useless function?!? it should be "new"
slightly related is their decision to make the left softkey in Messaging the "Delete" function. because of the confirmation step, it takes 2 steps to delete. under WM5 it took 2 steps to delete (menu-delete). they managed to reduce 2 steps to 2 steps. now THAT's progress! and now, the "new" function takes 3 steps (instead of 1 in WM5). once again, progress!
I would start by crucifying the WM product manager. And I don't mean just giving him a pink slip, I mean nailing the ****er the cross and setting it on fire.
Then, I would pay a suitcase full of cash each day to somebody who is familiar with terms like "user interface" and "usability".
I think this would be a good start.
ScottC
06-28-2007, 07:39 PM
Dropping a few million to buy away some UI designers from Apple would be a start.
Then I'd tell the development team that changes like removing BT DUN or sync over wifi will be forbidden.
Once they are done turning the X into a close button I'd let them continue to start from the ground up, adding the few parts of WM that don't suck, and telling the developers to rewrite the parts that do.
Parts we wouldn't see again:
Connection manager
Calculator
IE in its current form
PocketOutlook
Program manager
Microsoft Bluetooth
What we'd end up with is a more polished UI.
A browser that is a TRUE mobile browser (with integrated support for flash, media and java), tabs and a smarter rendering engine.
A much easier to use connection manager that supports configuration on the desktop (no more entering 40 character keys on the device).
A configurable program manager with different views (list, icons etc...)
An email client with filtering, spelling check, flagging and other features.
The Bluetooth stack will be purchased elsewhere since there doesn't seem to be a single programmer within Microsoft that can develop a reliable working stack.
Then, before releasing this, I'd tell the operators that they are no longer in charge of updates. Updates and fixes will be released when they are ready and can be downloaded OTA or through activesync. Operators can put their own .CAB package on the device as long as it doesn't interfere with the core of the OS.
Next up are the hardware vendors. They will cease to use QVGA from 2008 onwards and only release VGA and higher. The minimum memory will be raised to 512Mb.
Don Tolson
06-28-2007, 10:23 PM
I would in a second! The problem is that there's not an upgrade path for existing phones / pda. I get so frustrated. After a couple of months with my new fancy spiffy device a new Window Mobile comes outs and I can't upgrade unless I buy a whole new device. Now your just simply out of date...
I wish these devices allowed us (customers) to install the latest WM. Hopefully in the future the devices will become more flexibly like the PC.
Hi Bobby... that's not quite true for all phones. My Eten X500 for instance, got upgraded WM5 to WM6 just last month (by me) and I believe some other manufacturers (HTC?) have said they will be providing WM6 upgrades for users to install as well.
To be honest though, for me, most of the WM6 upgrades were cosmetic (it does look cool), although some of the problems with BT and other communications were fixed. And all-in-all, this ROM update from Eten seems pretty stable compared to earlier ones.
What??? Are you trying to tell me, there could be something better, than WM6?? 8O :wink:
Tirnaog
06-29-2007, 01:27 PM
Ye all probably know about this small little free app, but just incase someone out there dosent;
MagicButton: This is the one app that gets put on first thing on my PPCs.
It turns the X into a exit function so you don't have all those running apps.
Its very small and works great. Hopefully it will work in WM6 too.
What I would like to see back is the theme switcher. Just upgraded finally to a WM5 device and I miss this app greatly.
Deasun
mesposito2
06-29-2007, 03:49 PM
>> How Would You Change Windows Mobile 6?
Boy wouldn't it be nice to actually see WM6 to be able to answer this question. If they wait much longer everyone will already have moved to iPhone.
deemota
06-29-2007, 05:55 PM
Gee, what would I change about WM6? Ummm, I don't know- maybe release it.... Are you listening Palm? My Treo 750 is in need of a tune-up...
jasoncli
06-30-2007, 07:26 PM
Working alarms & working notifications right out of the box. I am soooo tired of missing appointments because I rely upon my PDA to be a PDA and miss an appointment. I use AlarmToday and it helps but still only 90% of my alarms go off.
Kacey Green
07-01-2007, 03:55 PM
#1 thing to change, why did they make the left softkey in Calendar the "Reply" button?!?!?!?!? there is no "reply" function in the calendar! why did they waste the softkey on a useless function?!? it should be "new"
slightly related is their decision to make the left softkey in Messaging the "Delete" function. because of the confirmation step, it takes 2 steps to delete. under WM5 it took 2 steps to delete (menu-delete). they managed to reduce 2 steps to 2 steps. now THAT's progress! and now, the "new" function takes 3 steps (instead of 1 in WM5). once again, progress!
If your device has a keyboard, you can just hold down the "D" key for one second and you can delete items without getting the confirmation dialog.
TheMouseMan
07-02-2007, 12:24 PM
Below is my Top 3 issues. I have not yet had a WM6 device in my hands... (but that fact that my list is not related to any particular version of the OS just shows that MS could/should have fixed it loooong ago).
1) Most important!!! Microsoft to disallow PDA manufacturers to tamper with the OS. Device specific features to be included as .cab-files. Hopefully thereby make OS upgrades easier available to all (with only minor hardware restrictions - i.e. fair enough that an iPAQ 2215 cannot run Windows Mobile 8.0). 8)
2) Microsoft to employ Chris McKay (www.lakeridgesoftware.com) - and give him a small team of excellent geeks to lead (and pay him a lot!!!). We could then see Wisbar Advance as an integrated part of Windows Mobile... SWEEEEET!!! 0X
3) MS to impose minimum requirements to PDA manufacturers with respect to memory (256/512 mb might be extreme at present... but... :roll: ). MS has a monopoly on the PDA OS - use/abuse it for the sake of the end user (for once!) :devilboy:
All for now - have to get back to work!!!
- TheMouseMan
Below is my Top 3 issues. I have not yet had a WM6 device in my hands... (but that fact that my list is not related to any particular version of the OS just shows that MS could/should have fixed it loooong ago).
- TheMouseMan
Oh yes, spot on 8)
1) I have a Orange SPV1000, for which I can not get anny ROM updates, since Orange is no longer operating in my country, and no one has taken over the support for their devices :evil: I know there are newer ROM versions out there, but not for that exact model :(
2) Sweet and then some 8)
3) And devices with WiFi should have at least 400MHz CPU, to support deasent VoIP/Skype :!:
wbuch
07-04-2007, 10:40 PM
1. Have the D-pad actually do something in the phone app (like Up for call history, Down for speed dial, etc).
2. For alarms, have an option to a) set the amount of snooze to *any* value you want (rather than just their preset values) and b) to be able to go to the relevant item (task, appt, etc).
Russ Smith
12-02-2007, 02:53 PM
ScottCC makes some good points. Before MS released the first OS labled Pocket PC, they did a huge market research project. They talked to people who were using WindowsCE devices. They talked to people who were using Palm devices. They even talked to people who had bought and returned said devices. The result was a pretty decent user interface for the time. MS needs to open the channels _very_ wide to user input. Of course they'll get a lot of "It doesn't work." without the "how", but they'd also learn a thing or two about how their products are really used and what would make us jump to upgrade or buy new.
Along with the ideas previously suggested, I'd add a few really wild ones:
* How about some way to look at the WM device as your _primary_ PIM point as opposed to an adjunct to your desktop? Major changes in ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center would be required, especially doing away with the "erase everything on the handheld when you stop synching it" polixy.
* See my "Synch-less" thread (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57519) for a really odd/wild idea.
* Buy out DataViz or just license their "Documents to Go" so synching docs doesn't lose formatting and so you can read native desktop formats.
* Through it all, keep in mind that customers buy these devices to have quick, easy access to their data on the go. To that end, make sure you don't lose instant-on operation and streamline the user interface for faster (and less confusing) navigation. (As mentioned above, watch some real users to find out where the bottlenecks are.)
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