Microsoft Released Daylight Savings Patch for Windows Mobile

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx</a><br /><br /><i>"Congress has changed the dates for Daylight Saving Time (DST) in the United States starting in 2007. Canada has adopted similar DST dates. These changes could cause clocks and Microsoft Outlook calendar appointments on Windows Mobile-powered devices to display incorrect times for March 11 – April 1, 2007 and October 28 – November 4, 2007 and again in subsequent years."</i><br /><br />You should be able to visit <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/default.mspx">this Windows Mobile page</a> and download the CAB directly to your device if you don't routinely synchronize with a PC. Please note there are a number of steps involved, and may require the updating of Outlook, Exchange and your PC as well, not to mention that once the update is applied on your device, you must change timezones to get the new patch to "take," so be sure to do this when you have a few minutes to ensure it is done properly. My understanding is those of you on the cutting edge with Windows Mobile 6, Office 2007, Windows Vista or Exchange 2007 don't need to do anything as these systems already account for this. I know I have some work to do this weekend on my Exchange 2003 environment. :?<br /><br />Please, if any of you know others using Windows Mobile devices, point them to this information. Most people are unaware of the change or how it will impact their computing devices.

[Silver5]

I guess we should all say "Thank You Mr. President!"

[x51vuser]

'cutting edge' ?! LOL
Professional students from Redmond alredy started to work on replacement of Vista ;-)
If you have automatic updates on you do not need to anything

[Ed Hansberry]

If you have automatic updates on you do not need to anything
Unfortunately, that is not the case. Read up on the Outlook DST tool. Outlook 2007 doesn't require it, but MS recommends you use it because it is better than the one that shipped with Office 2007. ANd 2003 and earlier don't have it at all.

And from where i am sitting, the DST updates are in "recommended" updates, but not critical, so AU isn't grabbing them.

[jsmcguir]

here is a fix from HTC for the Cingular 8525 and Cingular 8125:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/pocketpc/software-downloads.html

fix for Cingular 2125:
http://america.htc.com/support/smartphone/software-downloads.html

i read the articles at www/microsoft.com/DST2007. i'm not sure what part of that process this replaces. probably jsut the .cab file for the handset that can be downloaded... I installed the patch on my 8525. i guess i'll have to wait and see what happens...

[signothefish]

I tried to install the cab on my Toshiba e800 and the setup failed because the WM2003SE OS complained that the DST2007.CAB file is not a valid Windows CE Setup file. I guess this is for WM5.0 and later. I did install the XP and Outlook patches, so hopefully after syncing and then changing my time zone to a different one and then back, my e800 will have the new setting. Does anyone know a way to confirm it carried over to my device?

[asims]

Would simply changing the time zone be alright? Or would that cause other problems? I'm not too confident with MS's patches.

[ctmagnus]

My device missed the time change in October. However, MemMaid has been acknowledging the April 1 time change for a while now. Even after following the instructions given on Microsoft's DST change page. :worried:

[Ed Hansberry]

Would simply changing the time zone be alright? Or would that cause other problems? I'm not too confident with MS's patches.

no. appointments are not time dependent, they are time-zone dependent. moving to another TZ will shift the appointments.

[Jason Lee]

So if i run vista, office 2007 and WM5 which of these steps do i need to do?? :lol:

[melsam [MS]]

I tried to install the cab on my Toshiba e800 and the setup failed because the WM2003SE OS complained that the DST2007.CAB file is not a valid Windows CE Setup file. I guess this is for WM5.0 and later. I did install the XP and Outlook patches, so hopefully after syncing and then changing my time zone to a different one and then back, my e800 will have the new setting. Does anyone know a way to confirm it carried over to my device?

For WM2003 devices, please download the desktop installer that is linked from the above page (here's the download link for your convenience: http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/8/8/a8896b5f-69d7-4381-b12d-6fe27ff0d07a/Setup.msi). Then connect your device to the desktop over USB and install the update. It should work.

The reason that cab file didn't work is because it is signed, and WM2003 devices didn't recognize signed files. When you install it through desktop ActiveSync, the certificate is stripped from signed files.

-Mel

[ctmagnus]

So if i run vista, office 2007 and WM5 which of these steps do i need to do?? :lol:

Just the WM step. But, like Ed said, you could run the Outlook 2007 tool (I believe it's the tzmove.exe file) just in case, but it isn't absolutely necessary.

[Jason Lee]

Just the WM step. But, like Ed said, you could run the Outlook 2007 tool (I believe it's the tzmove.exe file) just in case, but it isn't absolutely necessary.

thanks. :) i just recently started using vista.. last week actually. I had copied my pst file over from my old computer so i ran the timezone update thing in office 2007 just in case.
Also installed the patch on my PPC. I used the cab file.

Of course i sync my calendar with my desktop pst and with the exchange server at work so I ran the outlook tool this morning at work... Man what a mess... And just think.. If the gov doesn't think it works we get to all go back next year... :roll:

[Gerard]

For WM2003 devices, please download the desktop installer that is linked from the above page (here's the download link for your convenience: http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/8/8/a8896b5f-69d7-4381-b12d-6fe27ff0d07a/Setup.msi). Then connect your device to the desktop over USB and install the update. It should work.
-Mel

I thought this was a patch. From the Microsoft site, it looks almost like another career is entailed, if one were to read all that garbage and follow all those steps. Sorry, but I have a life and a job to deal with, not nearly enough hours in the day to cope with all that nonsense.

So I tried installing the CAB on my WM2003SE Toshiba e800. Failed, due to certificate problem as mentioned on their page (within the first bit, so I did read it that far). The official MS suggestion? Contact your device supplier for a certificate. Right. Toshiba is as likely to provide anything for the e800 as I am to sprout wings.

So I tried the (8MB+!!!) PC installer, and it failed, saying that I must first run Outlook and make it the default email client. Well I don't use Outlook on the PC, though it is installed (I keep forgetting to remove it). My kid uses Thunderbird for email, sometimes. Otherwise there's no mail done on the PC. So I was forced by this pile of junk patch to set up an account in Outlook for the first time, then make it the default. Failed again. Turns out I had to also un-set Thunderbird as the default mail client. That done, I tried a third time and succeeded, I think, though there was no real confirmation and no apparent way to check this. There is no interface beyond the very minimal installation dialogue.

So I then synched my PPC, and got told that there was no partnership! Okay, so I deleted the partnership (which had been in place and working just fine for over a year) and made a new one. I then set the rules so that information in Contacts and Calendar would be combined - what the heck, can't hurt to try Contact synching again after more than a year since the last failure... right? Wrong. It said there were over 1400 contacts out of synch. It also deleted a bunch of appointments - I forgot to change that option in the synch rules first, so my fault there I guess, though having the default set to wipe out PPC-originated appointments on first synch seems a trifle bizarre. The Contacts synch finished, eventually, and told me there were a pile of duplicates to delete, so I deleted them with the appropriate mouse click. Then I disconnected after updating the synch.

Guess what? I now had 701 contacts entries! No biggie, except that I have currently only 673 contacts entries. No way I'm going to manually check every... single... one... so I just restored Contacts, Categories, and Calendar databases from the backup I'd made just before running this whole fiasco. What a zoo Redmond must be! All those instructions, all this delay while we wait for the official patch... and they haven't got it right by a long shot. I hope my calendar works when DST kicks in. If it doesn't, well, time for another nasty email to Microsoft which will go on the 'ignore' pile along with every other one I've sent them over the years. If I ran my business like they do, I fear no one would ever walk through my door.

To be fair, this whole DST debacle should never have happened. Many of us Canadians protested against it, but of course the US Congress would never bother listening to the voices of those who comprise their largest trading partner. Tens ot thousands of business owners in Canada wrote letters, signed petitions, and otherwise made clear their distaste towards this monomaniacal infliction of US desire upon the world. To what end? A crappy little patch from MS and a load of hours wasted by millions of users, with dubious results. Nice work, George.

[Underwater Mike]

I can't get the HTC patch to install on my 8125 no matter how I try it. Anyone else had success?



here is a fix from HTC for the Cingular 8525 and Cingular 8125:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/pocketpc/software-downloads.html

fix for Cingular 2125:
http://america.htc.com/support/smartphone/software-downloads.html

i read the articles at www/microsoft.com/DST2007. i'm not sure what part of that process this replaces. probably jsut the .cab file for the handset that can be downloaded... I installed the patch on my 8525. i guess i'll have to wait and see what happens...

[Underwater Mike]

Was this necessary? :pukeface:

To be fair, this whole DST debacle should never have happened. Many of us Canadians protested against it, but of course the US Congress would never bother listening to the voices of those who comprise their largest trading partner. Tens ot thousands of business owners in Canada wrote letters, signed petitions, and otherwise made clear their distaste towards this monomaniacal infliction of US desire upon the world. To what end? A crappy little patch from MS and a load of hours wasted by millions of users, with dubious results. Nice work, George.

[Rod3]

Has this worked for anybody? I have several Pocket PCs and the Cingular 8125, and none of them are up to date. Anybody got any ideas? I installed the patches, my computers are up to date, just my PDAs don't work.
If I set them manually, they will reverse themselves back to the old DST time thing (or forward, whatever) in three weeks, won't they?

[Steven Cedrone]

Mine updated properly...

[ToddJ]

I installed the update, but the time didn't update....is there another update out there that works?

[Rod3]

I had all my PocketPCs fail (won't tell you how many; more than five) and my Palms all updated (won't tell you how many of those, either, but not nearly five). That makes me sad. I want the Pocket PCs to do better than the Palms. And on this one thing, they didn't make the grade. :cry:

[davidspalding]

I'm afraid to say that what years of reliable use and superb functionality could not pale, the US Congress and Microsoft have done -- rendered my Casio E-125 (stop snickering) obsolete. Unless someone can tell me the Pocket PC (aka PPC 2000) registry equivalents of the new TZI keys. I see the value in shifting the DST, but I don't like that a device with plenty of mileage left on it is not supported or even referred to in MS's official pages. %*#&amp; them, my next PDA will be Symbian or Linux based.