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Jason Lee
11-02-2006, 04:53 PM
Something has happened to my pocket pc that has caused mobile web sites to no longer display. The 2 examples would be the main site and forums here and google.com. Both used to redirect me to the mobile versions of the page. I am guessing that the User agent has been modified by some program i have installed but i don't know what it should be set to. From what i have seen online it should work the way it is set.

Can anyone with a cingular 8125 pls post the contents of /HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Internet Settings/5.0/

I would like to see all sub keys under there.

Here is what i have:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0]
"SpecialDomains"="lp. rg."


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent]
"Version"="MSIE 5.5"
"Desc"="Default (Windows CE)"
"UA-Language"="JavaScript"
"Platform"="Windows CE"
@="HTC-8100/1.2 Mozilla/4.0"
"Compatible"="compatible"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Post Platform]
"PPC; 240x320"=""


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Templates]


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Templates\Same as Pocket PC]
"UA-Language"="JavaScript"
"Platform"="Windows CE; PPC; 240x320"
"Version"="MSIE 4.01"
"Compatible"="compatible"
@="Mozilla/4.0"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Templates\Same as Windows XP]
"UA-Language"="JavaScript"
"Platform"="Windows NT 5.1"
"Version"="MSIE 6.0"
"Compatible"="compatible"
@="Mozilla/4.0"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache]


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\History]
"PerUserItem"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\Cookies]
"PerUserItem"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\Content]
"PerUserItem"=dword:00000001




Does anyone else have these template things? That part really confused me.
I really would like to see how this compairs to an unmodified 8125.
Or what does PPCT use to determine what browser you are using? that might help me find what changed.

Thanks.
Jason Lee
11-02-2006, 05:24 PM
Well, i discovered that my browser was only sending part of the user agent string.. I don't know why.

When i went to www.whatsmyuseragent.com it only gave me HTC-8100/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 instead of the complete HTC-8100/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; PPC; 240×320)

So i removed the HTC-8100/1.2 and only left Mozilla/4.0 and all works again. But i know it used to work with the HTC part in there. I would still like to see someone's default reg values.
Jason Lee
11-02-2006, 05:31 PM
Ok for the heck of it i added the HTC-8100/1.2 back in front of Mozilla 4.0 and it still works?????!!! 8O

So appearently all i needed to do was edit that string. I wonder if some extra character got in there some how?

Some days computers hurt my head...
Jason Lee
11-02-2006, 05:56 PM
Ok, last post, i promise. I found the culprit. It is SK Tools!
If you open the tune up section, go to the IE tab and tap on the user agent setting and then click done. That is all you have to do, no change or anything. But you do have to tap on it. So tapping it does actually rewrite the setting to the registry but does something wrong. There is some extra character or something that gets thrown in there that causes the user agent not to get transmitted past the end of that first value.
I went in and cut the HTC part you and saved the setting then pasted it back in. This did not fix it. If you open the value in reg edit and delete and retype any character then save it all is fixed. So it is some character encoding problem with SK Tools.
The first time i deleted the - thinking that might be the problem. it worked so i tried it again but this time deleted the M and retyped it. That fixed it also. So the reg editor writes everything back correctly but you do have to make a change and save it.

Oh well....
tabenate
03-09-2007, 06:02 PM
I have the same problem with SK Tools and this site's rendering. Unfortunately I don't clearly understand the steps taken above to resolve this.

Which keys / strings exactly should be modified, to what values?

I have a TyTN WM5.
Jason Lee
03-12-2007, 04:10 PM
I have the same problem with SK Tools and this site's rendering. Unfortunately I don't clearly understand the steps taken above to resolve this.

Which keys / strings exactly should be modified, to what values?

I have a TyTN WM5.

Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\
You will need to edit the default value. Mine is set to "HTC-8100/1.2 Mozilla/4.0" so yours should be something similar.

The bug it that sktools edits the field using the wrong character encoding so the value looks correct to you but when it gets sent over the net it looses part of it.

It should be as simple as editing that field, delete any one character and save it. then go back and add that character back.
martin_ayton
03-13-2007, 11:18 AM
Jason,

You're my 'hero of the day.' :werenotworthy:

I just didn't get why the front page of PPCT rendered as a mobile site, but the rest as if I was browsing on a PC, and I had given up reading PPCT from my Vario2 (Hermes). All fixed now :D

Incidentally, my default value just read "Mozilla/4.0" and didn't have any of the preceding characters.

Thanks again,

Martin.
Jason Lee
03-13-2007, 02:42 PM
glad it worked. :)
Took me awhile to figure it out originally.