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Jason Dunn
08-24-2006, 04:15 AM
Here are some of the common questions I expect to get regarding the merger, and the answers I have to them.<br /><br /><b>Q: What will happen to all the forum posts in the phpBB forums now? Will they be lost?</b><br />A: For the past several months we've had an instance of vBulletin that has a 100% mirroring of all phpBB data from these forums. We've been testing and ensuring that we can migrate all the content over to the new forums. These forums contain an amazing amount of useful information, and in essence they are the heart of the community itself, so their full restoration to the new location is paramount. It's a good thing Fabrizio is so darn smart!<br /><br /><b>Q: What about usernames, profiles, post counts, etc.?</b><br />A: All will be migrated over and merged together where appropriate. I know post counts are important to community members, so we'll preserve it all. We did a username comparison and found that there were only 13 instance of users having the same username on multiple sites where that user didn't seem to be the same person (we compared email addresses). In the case of a conflicting username, the person who registered it first will have precedence, unless that person's account is no longer active (as defined by no posts within the past six months). In all cases we'll contact both parties to seek the best possible solution - it could very well be that one of the two people would be happy to change their username. I do not expect this to cause significant conflict.<!><br /><br /><b>Q: Should I wait to register in the new forums?</b><br />A: No, you can <a href="http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/index.php">go ahead and register</a>, but if you want your post count and history to merge with the new site, it's critical that you register with the same username so we can link them. If you don't care about that, register with whatever username you wish.<br /><br /><b>Q: Things look...rather spartan there in the new forums - they're not finished are they?</b><br />A: These aren't even beta forums, they're pre-alpha. Right now the only forums we've created are for Zune Thoughts, and a few generic testing forums (Off Topic, etc.). We need to create a Thoughts Media template for the root level of the forums, polish up all sorts of odds and ends, and of course start to migrate over all the content and user data over the next few months. The Zune Thoughts templates have all sorts of glitches and bugs. Plus, I'm still trying to figure vBulletin out, it's about 500% more complex than phpBB.<br /><br /><b>Q: What about subscriber services?</b><br />A: Subscriber services are one of the major pieces of work that we have yet to do. For now, everything will continue to operate as normal on the respective sites. Once the forums merge, we'll have the goal of getting subscriber benefits up and running at the same time (or very shortly thereafter).<br /><br /><b>Q: You mentioned a new content management system?</b><br />A: From the end user perspective (you), the new CMS will have zero impact on your experience using the site. What it will enable, however, is more editorial content from our editorial and review team members, because the new system is much more flexible than our current one. It will allow us to do what we do even better, which means more content for you.<br /><br /><b>Q: What about forum ranks?</b><br />A: We've simplified them. So rather than being a "Pocket PC Ponderer", you'll be just a "Ponderer".<br /><br /><b>Q: The Zune Thoughts forum structure looks quite different from Pocket PC Thoughts and Smartphone Thoughts - where are the "Front Page Posts" forums?</b><br />A: Everything will live together inside the one forum. So user posts about hardware will live in the same forum as front-page editorial posts about hardware. It's easier to look in just one place. We're going to be implementing a much improved archive system with metatag support, so it will be ultra-easy to look at archived posts, then filter based on topic if you don't want to manually look through the forum.<br /><br />Anything else? Fire away! I'll update this document with new Q&amp;A based on reader response.

beq
08-24-2006, 04:42 AM
Interesting news, I wish you luck in rolling this out :)

What happens to someone who'd already subscribed to more than one thoughts site?

And what happens to someone who'd registered in more than one thoughts forum (with same username)? If I read the FAQ correctly, all the post counts get aggregated together?

Jason Dunn
08-24-2006, 04:46 AM
What happens to someone who'd already subscribed to more than one thoughts site?

Well, I'd suggest that they not renew one of them if they're coming up for renewal in the next six months. I'll offer partial refunds for any lost value, or maybe a microlight instead to make up for it. ;-)

And what happens to someone who'd registered in more than one thoughts forum (with same username)? If I read the FAQ correctly, all the post counts get aggregated together?

Yes, correct: everything will be merged into a single entity that is YOU.

Menneisyys
08-24-2006, 08:44 AM
The most important question: will you implement some kind of redirection between the old and the new forum / threads? I'd be VERY important - for example, I've linked PPCT threads from other sites hundreds of times. If there will be no redirection (this is what happened on BrightHand - "fortunately", I haven't linked so many threads from BH than from PPCT and, tehrefore, the migration didn't cause so many problems for me in there), all those links become dead...

I'm also working on another forum migration on another PPC board; on the server side, it's pretty easy to make a redirector PHP script that just takes the forum/topic parameter off the HTTP request, looks up the new forum/topic ID from a table and just sends out a HTTP Redirect response.

Jason Dunn
08-24-2006, 01:46 PM
The most important question: will you implement some kind of redirection between the old and the new forum / threads? I'd be VERY important - for example, I've linked PPCT threads from other sites hundreds of times.

You're right, that's an excellent point - I believe we had talked about that, but I'm not sure what our solution was going to be. I certainly don't want to break all those incoming links. I've taken this as an action item and will investigate further.

wocket
08-24-2006, 02:06 PM
I take that there will still be the excellent mobile forums when you finish the move to vBulletin?

Jason Dunn
08-24-2006, 04:38 PM
I take that there will still be the excellent mobile forums when you finish the move to vBulletin?

They'll be even BETTER. :mrgreen: Although the question of whether or not they'll remain open for non-subscribers is still somewhat up in the air...

brianchris
09-02-2006, 12:24 AM
I haven't jumped ship to RSS yet (I know, a die hard), and that being the case, email blast is one of my favorite subscriber services. In fact, I've been waiting for email blast from Smartphone Thoughts for literally years!

Is email blast still going to be a feature once everything migrated? If so, that means, finally, Smartphone Thoughts will have an email blast feature, correct?

All in all, it sounds very exciting! I'm looking forward to it!

Jason Dunn
09-02-2006, 05:48 AM
In fact, I've been waiting for email blast from Smartphone Thoughts for literally years! Is email blast still going to be a feature once everything migrated? If so, that means, finally, Smartphone Thoughts will have an email blast feature, correct?

Yes, that's correct, subscribers will have access to the email blast feature on all sites. As for an ETA for that, well, that's a bit harder - so much work has to happen first with the merger of all the sites.