What is the Origami Project? Round 2.

[Darius Wey]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.d-kitchen.com/main.html' target='_blank'>http://www.d-kitchen.com/main.html</a><br /><br /></div><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami1.jpg" /><br /><br />We won't (officially) learn more about Microsoft's Origami Project <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46726">until March 2nd</a>, but that won't stop us (and you) from scouring the net from head to toe looking for answers. Thanks to a comment made at Engadget, we've unearthed a video that depicts the Origami Project as an ultra-portable lifestyle PC. You can watch it yourself by visiting <a href="http://www.d-kitchen.com/main.html">D-Kitchen</a>, then clicking on "Enter", "WORK", "BRANDTHEATRE", and "Microsoft Origami". Once you've watched it, let us know what you think. <!><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami2.jpg" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami3.jpg" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami4.jpg" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami5.jpg" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami6.jpg" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami7.jpg" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami8.jpg" /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20060226-Origami9.jpg" />

[mr.brainstorming]

I think this is the Ultra Mobile PC. I was waiting for a device like this. A device that has a bigger screen that can run Windows software! So I can actually see more while surfing the web or reading an ebook, and take notes better on its bigger screen! A device that is smaller and cheaper than a tablet pc!

[norti]

I think this is the Ultra Mobile PC. I was waiting for a device like this. A device that has a bigger screen that can run Windows software! So I can actually see more while surfing the web or reading an ebook, and take notes better on its bigger screen! A device that is smaller and cheaper than a tablet pc!

I don't think that this will be so cheap... All the mobile devices with screen smaller than a notebook or tabletpc but - almost - the same functionality have always the same price than their "big brother"... You can buy a high-end pda with vga screen at the same price of a low-end notebook. Which is better? You decide. But smaller means not cheaper.

[UCCOFFEE]

it wont work out unless it's 50% chepaer than a budget laptop....
it will end up like pocket pc (non phone) ....

should we gamble? buy some MSFT NOW?

[invaders]

It's a http://www.nokia.com/770 + Windows Media Center remote

[OneAngryDwarf]

Ummm this isn't anything more than a tablet pc which is a bit smaller. Doesn't make sense to me though... its too big to fit in your pocket like a Pocket PC and you might as well get something a little bigger that has a larger screen and a keyboard built in that rotates out. Microsofts new slogan should be "Where do you want to go today with the same stuff we've been producing for the past several years?". Catchy don't you think? No I didn't think so either.

[ramjet73]

I liked the soundtrack and the girl in the RV was cute, but my pockets aren't big enough for this device. Should we anticipate a new Thoughts Media site called "Backpack PC Thoughts"? :)

ramjet73

[dochall]

I have been using a PPC (currently the hx4700) and an portege 3505 tablet pc. After purchasing an SP5 I am using the ppc a whole lot less but I do miss some of the functionality but not enough to carry the ppc as religiously as I once did. In fact I am now looking to get something smaller than the 3505 to replace the functionality of both it and the missing functionality provided by the 4700.

I may be different from the average consumer and to a certain extent the average ppc thoughts reader but I am willing to pay more to the functionality and portability that I need.

I have a desktop at work and at home. I need something portable for the inbetween desk moments. It won't be my only pc and therefore I can compromise on outright power. I need something that can surf, email, read rss feeds, run one note (tablet pc is must have for me) and the rest of office, and rarely portable video but I'm never going to use it for photoshop or other processor intensive activities. Currently the favoured options are Motion's LS800 and the Fujitsu 1510. The OQO doesn't cut it for me as the screen is just too small.

The comparison of cost to a budget laptop doesn't work for me but then a comparison to a desktop replacement laptop doesn't work me either. I don't care if what I need is close in cost to a 17" high powered CPU, and latest Nvidia GO gpu. The super laptop does not fulfill my needs.

If what we're seeing about Oragami is true it's very interesting. It appears to fit the evolution of my needs perfectly. The smartphone platform has reduced the need for PPC at the bottom end (and provides instant I feel I need it - for example to check an appointment) and this could replace my laptop at the top end.

Now I have been huge fan of the tablet pc since it was launched. It fits my professional life fully. I spend a great deal of my time either reviewing documents or taking notes in meetings. The tablet pc may not have been the huge success that was hoped but for me (and I would guess a lot of people in Microsoft which must have a similar role) it has been one of the greatest changes in the way I use a pc.

It could also explain why we're not seeing top end PPCs coming out with WM5. A top end PPC is going to stray into the range of the oragami and for my purposes is likely to be the poorer cousin.

Anyway roll on the start of March. I just hope they have a similar number of oems lined up to provide hardware as they had for the tablet pc launch.

[Foo Fighter]

This device simply falls in line with other mobile PC concepts that have been shown to the press, similar to Intel's mockups show at recent trade shows. I don't buy into this device form factor. It's far too bulky and will no doubt rival notebook PCs in price, perhaps even higher. Bill Gates has always had a fetish with tablet-like devices. Microsoft uses devices like this internally. Gates even publically signed off Windows XP on a tablet PC handed to him by Jim Alchen. Nothing new here really.

There may be some vertical application for a form factor such as this. But Microsoft has to be off its nut to think consumers are going to carry this expensive brick around with them daily. Gates had it right the first time...the Cell phone trumps everything. That is the device everyone will carry, and will become more advanced, assuming the role of PDA, digital camera, MP3 player, and ultimately Mobile PC.

[Foo Fighter]

The first screenshot shows what looks like OSX running on the desktop PC. Does Microsoft know about this?

[Tim Rapson]

Apple Newton, Laser PC1-PC6, Quikpad, Desknote, HP clamshell, Clio, Zoomer, HP LC100, Poquet, Atari Portfolio, Sharp Wizard, etc.

I expect there are dozens, perhaps over 100 mobile models that are proof of concept. Only Bill Gates who has enough money to waste and not one single original creative thought in his entire corporate body could drag this losing form factor out over and over.

The PDA market is losing out to smaller devices like the iPods (Have you seen any iPods bigger than a Palm III that sets the standard for the largest portable device to ever succeed in the marketplace? No.) , phones, gameboys, and others. Offering something that is LESS pocketable is not going to work. Even in portable game systems and video players people won't buy anything that won't fit in a shirt pocket. They know that they won't use them if they do buy them. See how Sony is already working on shrinking the PSP after sales failed to meet projections? See how Nintendo is redesigning the DS to get it back to pocketable GBA dimensions?

This latest Origami my stall development on the PDA side as developers and manufaturers are distracted. This comes at a bad time for WinMob and Palm who are already facing stagnant sales numbers. That will be frustrating to watch, especially as this new platform is clearly doomed to repeat the failures of history by repeating them.

It is not going anywhere.

[Demens]

YATFMDTISTETBATE!

Yet Another Tablet-pc From My Dreams That Is Too Expensive To Buy At The End. :roll:

Allthough they seem to advertise it to the younger age groups.

[jhat3k1]

Tim Rapson

As far as Palm you are correct, I think they would love to be as good as stagnate. As far as WinMob you couldn't be further off base. They are picking up market share at a furious rate, even on symbian which holds better than 60% stil. % years from now that will be MUCH, MUCH different. I would say that bythe turn of the decade m$ will hold near 50% market share or better. This number is also skewed due to the fact that symbian runs on so many "regular" phones.

[DuaneAA]

They need to wait for those roll-up thin screens to hit the market so you can have this size of display and still fit it into your pocket. Then the concept will sell.

[alabij]

Nice Video. I like the way information was being transfered between devices so seamlessly. However, haveing used Windows since 3.1 and Pocket PC since 2000, I gotta say no MS product till date works seamlessly.
Activestink barely works as it is. Who is MS kidding. This is not the first time that Microsoft is pushing the Tablet PC mainstream. I think it is the 3rd.
The truth is that in the future all PCs will be touchscreen but we just aren't there yet.
That thing looked big and bulky.

[Kevin Daly]

Sadly, the video seems to be no longer available :-(

If it looks like an OS X display, then unless there are OS X-specific features clearly in evidence my guess would be that that it was running a version of Windows Vista.

For everyone who's complaining about the form factor: It's too bulky compared with the way you would currently use a Pocket PC or a phone. That doesn't mean that it's inherently too large. Do people complain that paperbacks are a ridiculous size because you can't slip one in your pocket?

And as for the smartphone being the answer to everything: for many, many purposes the screen is simply too small (which another level up is also true of the Pocket PC). And they are completely unsuitable for serious text input (and yes, some people still know how to write complete sentences of unabbreviated words, and would like to do so).

I personally have two concerns: one is the obvious one about cost, the other (which may have some impact on the first) is whether they have used a version of Windows that is sufficiently modular that it excludes features and complexity that are not appropriate to a device of this size (I remember having a discussion at a user group meeting a few night ago about how Windows Embedded might be a good choice for such a device, without Origami itself having come up...maybe this is Vista Embedded?)

[fireflyrsmr]

After purchasing an SP5 I am using the ppc a whole lot less but I do miss some of the functionality but not enough to carry the ppc as religiously as I once did. I am in this camp. The little smartphone does so much that I want on an all the time basis. The laptop is too big to even consider carring unless I know it is going to be needed. This size device seems perfect to me when I am roaming the corporate physical space - have presentations to give and notes to take but won't be doing any analysis or photoshop or any other kill the cpu thing. I've noticed at work that the engineers around me have not up graded from the initial wave of palm devices. more power in the pocketpc is not compelling for these folks. they would rather carry the laptop. It has to have laptop function and the ease of laptop function (read screen size is to small on a shirt pocket device) for them to spend money. I think they are trying to kill the ppc and laptop with this device, and it works for me. When I'm doing cpu killing work I want huge screen(s) in front of me and printers making printouts. The trick for me would be to convince the IT guys to let this thing access lotus notes and intranet.

[Patrick Y.]

YATFMDTISTETBATE!

Yet Another Tablet-pc From My Dreams That Is Too Expensive To Buy At The End. :roll:

Allthough they seem to advertise it to the younger age groups.

I thought the leaked detail said that it will be less than 500?

[mr.brainstorming]

Well, I said "cheaper" not only I hope it to be cheaper but also because of this:

He also points back to an earlier Engadget post saying "According to at least one report, Bill Mitchell, Corporate Vice President of the Mobile Platform Division, showed a slide that outlined specs for the new PC category, including that it be wearable, always on, no larger than 10-inches, connected through 3G networks, pen-based, and have a suggested retail price of $500 or less. … One notable spec that could differentiate this one: Microsoft is apparently insisting that this run the full version of Windows."

(mobileread (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6001))

PDAs are pocketable, but that means smaller screen for me. I like PDAs, but in my opinion small screens are not suitable for reading and taking notes. On the other hand, laptops are too big, and smaller laptops are very expensive.

BTW, you can download the video from here: http://www.pdamexico.net/content/view/2032/2/

[Gen-M]

This looks like a Sony U71p streched to closer look like a PSP. Sony pulled the U71 series.

There has to be a better way to achieve small size and large viewing real estate. Maybe Head mounted displays, Maybe pull-out/fold-up displays. NOT make the device as big as a useful display.

As far as the form factor - I'd rather use a Flybook. It's about the same size with keyboard and cell phone built in.

[jmulder]

Frankly, this is more what I wanted when tabletPC's came out. Something larger than a pocketPC, but not necessarily as full-featured as a laptop.

I ended up getting a Toshiba M200 TabletPC, but it's too thick to write on when it's laid flat on a`desk, and too heavy to comfortably use it while standing. I usually just end up using it like a laptop (and in fact, I've already ordered a dual-core notebook to replace it...after about a year).

I can see this being used more like what they intended tablets to be.

[nosmohtac]

I liked the video, but I'm not sold on the concept.
I would likely buy one if it were to hit the $500 price range, but I would much rather see the flipstart pc become a reality in the 800-1000 range.

[Patrick Y.]

The PDA market is losing out to smaller devices like the iPods (Have you seen any iPods bigger than a Palm III that sets the standard for the largest portable device to ever succeed in the marketplace? No.) , phones, gameboys, and others. Offering something that is LESS pocketable is not going to work. Even in portable game systems and video players people won't buy anything that won't fit in a shirt pocket. They know that they won't use them if they do buy them. See how Sony is already working on shrinking the PSP after sales failed to meet projections? See how Nintendo is redesigning the DS to get it back to pocketable GBA dimensions?

This latest Origami my stall development on the PDA side as developers and manufaturers are distracted. This comes at a bad time for WinMob and Palm who are already facing stagnant sales numbers. That will be frustrating to watch, especially as this new platform is clearly doomed to repeat the failures of history by repeating them.

It is not going anywhere.

I really feel that people should stop comparing iPOD to PPC. Those two ARE FOR COMPLETELY DiFFERENT PURPOSES!!! iPOD is ONLY for music while PPC is for many different general purposes. Sure iPOD are small, but all they have inside is HD!! BTW, if you want tiny 2-in, or 1-in screen, on PPC you can have the size of iPOD. PPC has far more stuff inside it's hard to achieve such small size. You guys must realize how limited iPOD is anything but music. The video capability sucks too.

PSP and DS are even bigger than Pocket PC, but they ARE STILL EXTREMELY POPULAR. Most kids and people nowadays wants power over small size. Even a lot of people I know are complaining that stuff are getting TOO small. For example, cell phone screen is hardly readable and keypad is just horrible due to small size according to my parents.

Don't be so disappointed about the origami project yet, previous leaked information did say that the device will cost less than 500. If it's true, it's will probably be a successful device. As fireflyrsmr said, this can be a great replacement for laptops.

[IpaqMan2]

I think the video shows how a smaller tablet PC could be very functional , and if thats what it is, than I am glad to see it. I have only been waiting for more tablet PCs of that size for the last 2 years now..

Though my Gut feeling tells me it's not a full tablet pc. having an idea of how Microsoft works, I think it's more lke a sub-tablet PC. Meaning it will have some PC functions, but it will not be a full stand alone tablet PC, much like the PPC platform is now. I think it will stll be depended upon a full blown PC fsome how.

[msafi]

my needs may be different, but if this device is what i think it is, and it can be used as a convertible tablet, and it has an active pressure sensitive digitizer for less than $1000, i may order one.

[alese]

I always wanted to have something like this. Maybe little thinner and smaller, but still as full featured as possible, something like Sony U series or OQO, but without the hefty price.
I never liked "normal" notebooks - they are still too bulky and heavy and the PocketPCs on the other side are still not powerfull enough - I'm using currently HTC Universal as my micro notebook (not as a PDA - I use Wizard for my PDA) and it works OK, but the screen is a bit too small in full VGA and it lacks features like Video out (with accelerator like Axim x50v/x51v) and usb host and if you also consider that PPCs have a lot of crippled or not as full featured software as WinXP machines, my Universal can't really be what I want.
This concept could be exactly what I want, especially if the price will be really around $500. I just hope Microsoft won't do something stupid and cripple this with something...

[jgrnt1]

I don't mind the size at all. I have an iPAQ 4700 and wish the screen was a bit bigger. I do a lot of reading on it (Mobipocket) and the text is clear as can be, but I wish I could put more on the screen. I also view a lot of PowerPoint decks and pdf files. It is difficult to read busy slides and impossible to view more than a small portion of a page of a pdf file and have it be legible. I don't want a very small phone that manages my calendar and plays tunes. I want a device big enough to be truly useful as a computer, but small enough to carry around. This might fit the bill. If it runs XP, I can read books on it, run spreadsheets from it, etc. It will kill the Sony ebook reader -- though Sony's insistance on everything they do being proprietary may kill it anyway.

Currently I carry my 4700 in a 7.5"x5.5"x1.5" binder and have a phone on my hip. It would be nice to be able to carry the iPAQ in my pocket, but adding any type of protective case makes it nearly impossible to do so, so I carry it in the binder, along with other essentials -- several travel reward cards (I frequently travel on business), a pen and small notepad, a spare stylus.

If I could sit in a meeting and take real notes on this thing and then get up and run my presentation from it, with the ability to mark it up like a tablet PC, it would be perfect for me.

[szamot]

can somone redefine to me what small and portable mean these days, because this looks like neither to me. I think this might be a way for MS to fix the SmartScreen fiasco that never took off.

Let's see it will be about $1400 or more, have a 40 gig drive, 1 gig processor and perhaps even a decent video card plus wifi and a 2hours of battery life but the os will sit on the chip so it will be instant on and off who knows.

Boring.

[szamot]

my needs may be different, but if this device is what i think it is, and it can be used as a convertible tablet, and it has an active pressure sensitive digitizer for less than $1000, i may order one.

a high end PDA phone like the universal is more than that......I doubt this will be that cheap.

[myuser]

(first sry for Bug Me not logon, but I do not wish to register for 1 post)

First of all this could be amazing, I believe that the whole future of this device lies totally on advertising (knowing Microsoft there will be none) and more importantly on the price of this device. $600-800 would do the trick, if it is higher then the device will fail and join the ranks of Sony U series, OQO and numerous other portable devices that run full windows, however due to extremely high prices never become popular.

However this device could make it, which is NOT likely at all.
If the price is around $800, and let's say the device runs full version of Windows Tablet edition... Well at least in the video it showed WIN XP theme. Problem wiht PDA's and such devices is that not enaugh people have PDAS or similar devices. So file sharing and such becomes kinda useless.

[Dermot81]

If only it were a bit smaller, so it could be pocketable...Then I wouldn't hesitate at all to buy it.

[burtcom]

Hmmm -- looks like the video got pulled from the site...

[shindullin]

Seems like a pretty cool gizmo to me. I too am in the got a 2125 so I don't have to have the X51v with me all the time camp. I have the smartphone with me every day. I have the x51v with me 1 to 3 times a week when I'm out of the office for extended periods of time and know that I might need the greater funtionality. But since I don't have it with me all the time, it wouldn't mind having the extra funtionality for the price of a little larger form factor and a few more hundred dollars. Frankly, you don't need a pocket pc if you don't need it with you all the time. There seem to be a decent number of people on this site for which that is now true because of smartphones or what have you. The next natural step for those like me is to have a ultralight notebook, that fits in your briefcase or notebook case, that you just bring along a few times a week. This would be perfect. It may be just another niche product like the tablet but hey, pocket pc's are niche products too.

[Valil]

http://www.infusionblogs.com/blogs/activenick/archive/2006/02/13/303.aspx

1. Ultra Mobile - running Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005/Vista.
2. Price point of $500.

[Patrick Y.]

http://www.infusionblogs.com/blogs/activenick/archive/2006/02/13/303.aspx

1. Ultra Mobile - running Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005/Vista.
2. Price point of $500.

It will be awsome if microsoft can pull this off with any major glitches on the the final product.

[Mark Johnson]

I for one am really ready to give this a shot. I've given up hoping that the PPC will ever "scale up" to really release me from the need to carry a full notebook all the time.

I find I'm carrying around my Toshiba M205 TabletPC all the time in addition to my PPC. The TPC is way oversized/overweight for quickly accessing contacts/calendars, etc. but the PPC just can't get the job done for things I need to do.

I'm carefully NOT calling the PPC "underpowered" because the issue for me with a PPC/Origami type "sub-TabletPC" isn't really about how FAST it can open an Application like QuickBooks or Microsoft Access, but simply if it can do it at all. When I'm at my desk, it's easy to do the "heavy lifting" like QuickBooks/Photoshop/Access on a "real" XP workstation with maximum power. But if I'm in the field and happen to occasionally need to open that invoice in Quickbooks, my PPC can't do it at all, it can't run the app, so I have to carry the XP TPC even though I rarely use it. As long as the Origami runs standard XP app, I'm ready to try this.

I can see using this as a "presonal server" where you just set up your desktop to authenticate to the Origami and open files from \\origami\some_shared_folder as your "normal" work strategy. Your data is always with you. No conversion. No syncronization.

[beq]

I already use a ThinkPad X41 Tablet convertible notebook with 12" screen (billed as the smallest/lightest convertible notebook in its class).

Hopefully soon to be paired with the new Acer n311 VGA Pocket PC and Motorola 2nd-gen Razr V3i cellphone (I'm currently using the aging i-mate PDA2k and JAM, both Pocket PC Phone Edition devices).

I'm not sure this new in-between formfactor would have a place to fit in my arsenal (which includes the video iPod and Sony PSP as well)...

[Jason Dunn]

Just to further confirm, a contact of mine confirmed that this is indeed a Tablet PC-type device running Windows XP, not a Windows Mobile device.

[shinysteve]

I wish i'd followed this thread earlier. There are some good thoughts here.

To me, its the perfect device to slot into the 'hole' created by PPC use migrating over to smartphones. Already the PIM functions have migrated, the music functions are migrating, network connectivity is arguably better (when wifi is built into smartphones) and with thumboards on smartphones, the input mechanisms are better than most PPC's. The PPC screen is good for video but there's only nich stuff left. A bit of VOIP that will also migrate to a smartphone and maybe some processor-intensive functions.

With all those functions migrated to the smartphone, you get left with nothing much between a smartphone and a tablet or mini-laptop. Tablets have proved too big to be used as lifestyle devices and mini-laptops are expensive. The 5"-7" screen size segment is starting to show that its useful for browsing and portable video devices. Just like someone said - paperback books have never been too big and I argue that not many people actually carry their PPC in the pocket anyway. This could be the right format. People love that OQO design and formfactor and the Nokia 770 has also satisfied the need for a bedroom/lounge/coffee shop browsing device. I see some great possibilities for this segment (i've been making notes (http://blog.carrypad.com) on this 'carrypad' idea and i'm really convinced think we're ready for this new device segment. Probably not something that PPC lovers want to hear!!!

Regards
Steve/Chippy.[/i]

[davea0511]

I for one am really ready to give this a shot. I've given up hoping that the PPC will ever "scale up" to really release me from the need to carry a full notebook all the time.

I find I'm carrying around my Toshiba M205 TabletPC all the time in addition to my PPC. The TPC is way oversized/overweight for quickly accessing contacts/calendars, etc. but the PPC just can't get the job done for things I need to do.

I'm carefully NOT calling the PPC "underpowered" because the issue for me with a PPC/Origami type "sub-TabletPC" isn't really about how FAST it can open an Application like QuickBooks or Microsoft Access, but simply if it can do it at all. When I'm at my desk, it's easy to do the "heavy lifting" like QuickBooks/Photoshop/Access on a "real" XP workstation with maximum power. But if I'm in the field and happen to occasionally need to open that invoice in Quickbooks, my PPC can't do it at all, it can't run the app, so I have to carry the XP TPC even though I rarely use it. As long as the Origami runs standard XP app, I'm ready to try this.

I can see using this as a "presonal server" where you just set up your desktop to authenticate to the Origami and open files from \\origami\some_shared_folder as your "normal" work strategy. Your data is always with you. No conversion. No syncronization.
I am in complete agreement. Even this is just like a million previous attempts, they all failed due to cost and fuctionality comprimises. Technology has evolved to the point where they can actually produce exactly what they've been trying to do for years now, and make it affordable. When that happens I believe you will see wide acceptance.

As for size, it should not be compared to a PDA... it isn't a PDA. I believe it's intention is as a notebook replacement - and but not as a PDA replacement. That's what smartphones are for... PDA replacements.

[II_V_I]

The link on the Digital Kitchen site, which you specified in March 3rd transmission of PPC Thoughts WD, must have aged quickly. I tried it within minutes of receiving PPCTWD, and it had already been buried.

It ain't there, Dude

[JeromeMorrow]

And what about this device: the dualcor http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/12/jkontherun_excl.html

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/5675_large.jpg

http://www.dlmag.com/index.php?m=news&amp;pm=display&amp;nnet_aid=753


???? :devilboy:

[davea0511]

And what about this device: the dualcor http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/12/jkontherun_excl.html

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/5675_large.jpg

http://www.dlmag.com/index.php?m=news&amp;pm=display&amp;nnet_aid=753


???? :devilboy:

I think what makes the Origami different is:
1) the TabletPC OS is not really geared toward a handheld of this size. Fonts and icons for example in the Origami OS are optimized for handheld use. It's XP, but it must be modified in some way
2) perhaps the OS is designed to work with Xscale and transmeta processors - they already have XP versions that do this, but optimization is needed.
3) The hardware itself in the Origami is expected to be significantly cheaper, puting the device in the realm of possibilities for all PocketPC users.

That's not to say the dualcor isn't cool. It's incredibly cool, but Origami is designed so that you don't need 2 Operating systems like the dualcor has.