Redistribute EVDO from my phone via 802.11b?

[wifi4milez]

I have a Sprint PPC-6700 with both a EVDO radio and an 802.11b radio. Can I somehow redistribute the EVDO via the 802.11b radio? I would like to make the phone act like a mini hotspot. Is this possible? Do PPC's have an ICS (internet connection sharing) like setting?

[Janak Parekh]

Do PPC's have an ICS (internet connection sharing) like setting?
No, they do not. While it is theoretically possible that someone could write an ICS module, I don't believe it has been done -- this is not a high-usage scenario, and in fact may be against the terms-of-service of many wireless carriers.

--janak

[wifi4milez]

Do PPC's have an ICS (internet connection sharing) like setting?
No, they do not. While it is theoretically possible that someone could write an ICS module, I don't believe it has been done -- this is not a high-usage scenario, and in fact may be against the terms-of-service of many wireless carriers.

--janak

Sprint actually allows you to use the phone as a modem as part your plan. It would be fantastic to carry around a hotspot in my pocket.

[PetiteFlower]

Using it as a modem (connecting to one other device) is different then using as a hot spot (potentially connecting lots of devices at once). The latter is probably not allowed. The former is usually done with bluetooth.

[wifi4milez]

Using it as a modem (connecting to one other device) is different then using as a hot spot (potentially connecting lots of devices at once). The latter is probably not allowed. The former is usually done with bluetooth.

The application the phone comes with allows you to do it via usb, bluetooth, or IR. I am wondering if there is any way to set the 802.11b radio into ad-hoc mode, thus allowing wireless connections.

[Paragon]

Hold the phone...so to speak. There IS a way to do this. D-Link have just announce a router that takes an EV-DO PC card or phone connected by USB and routes the EV-DO signal through it's 802.11 B/G router.

http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/kr1-router/

Dave

[wifi4milez]

Hold the phone...so to speak. There IS a way to do this. D-Link have just announce a router that takes an EV-DO PC card or phone connected by USB and routes the EV-DO signal through it's 802.11 B/G router.

http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/kr1-router/

Dave

They have actually had such a device on the market for a few months called the Junxion Box. I am trying to avoid using a separate device however. The reason I would like to do it without a separate piece of equipment is for ease of use. I ALWAYS have my phone on me, and I NEVER carry a personal power supply with me which negates using either the D-Link device or the Junxion box while on the go (which is the point of this excercise). What I am trying to accomplish is to be able to carry around a device (such as my PSP) in addition to my phone. The PSP uses 802.11b (and ONLY 802.11b) for internet access. I would absolutely LOVE to be able to use Sony's LocationFree TV service via my PSP. The only problem is that as of right now you can only do that at home or some other place that has 802.11b access. Again, given that the program WModem allows for usb, IR, and bluetooth connections I would bet that if the phone could be set to ad-hoc mode it could work.

http://junxionbox.com/

PS. The other issue with the Junxion Box is that its $700!!!

[Paragon]

Again, given that the program WModem allows for usb, IR, and bluetooth connections I would bet that if the phone could be set to ad-hoc mode it could work.

Unfortunately I don't think it would work with ad-hoc. You would still need drivers or some sort of application to connect the wifi and EVDO on your device. This is what the Wireless modem does. Without it there is know way for the WiFi hardware to find and connect to the EVDO signal, or even know what to do with it.

Dave

[wifi4milez]

Again, given that the program WModem allows for usb, IR, and bluetooth connections I would bet that if the phone could be set to ad-hoc mode it could work.

Unfortunately I don't think it would work with ad-hoc. You would still need drivers or some sort of application to connect the wifi and EVDO on your device. This is what the Wireless modem does. Without it there is know way for the WiFi hardware to find and connect to the EVDO signal, or even know what to do with it.

Dave

That is unfortunate. Are you aware of any program or drivers that are planned/available that can do this?

[Menneisyys]

I have a Sprint PPC-6700 with both a EVDO radio and an 802.11b radio. Can I somehow redistribute the EVDO via the 802.11b radio? I would like to make the phone act like a mini hotspot. Is this possible? Do PPC's have an ICS (internet connection sharing) like setting?

With my HTTP proxy server running on your PDA, you can offer Web browing capabilities to another PC in Wi-Fi ad-hoc mode, the PDA connecting to the ad-hoc Wi-Fi notebook. Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1 on this question.

[Janak Parekh]

The PSP uses 802.11b (and ONLY 802.11b) for internet access. I would absolutely LOVE to be able to use Sony's LocationFree TV service via my PSP. The only problem is that as of right now you can only do that at home or some other place that has 802.11b access. Again, given that the program WModem allows for usb, IR, and bluetooth connections I would bet that if the phone could be set to ad-hoc mode it could work.
Menneisyys's approach is actually workable, but I don't think LocationFree uses HTTP -- rather, some proprietary Sony protocol. :(

The ideal thing, of course, would be to find a streaming TV solution that works with the Pocket PC itself. Not only is that less clumsy, but sustained use of both the EVDO and WiFi connections will drain your battery in no time flat (unless you were planning on plugging in the device).

--janak

[wifi4milez]

The PSP uses 802.11b (and ONLY 802.11b) for internet access. I would absolutely LOVE to be able to use Sony's LocationFree TV service via my PSP. The only problem is that as of right now you can only do that at home or some other place that has 802.11b access. Again, given that the program WModem allows for usb, IR, and bluetooth connections I would bet that if the phone could be set to ad-hoc mode it could work.
Menneisyys's approach is actually workable, but I don't think LocationFree uses HTTP -- rather, some proprietary Sony protocol. :(

The ideal thing, of course, would be to find a streaming TV solution that works with the Pocket PC itself. Not only is that less clumsy, but sustained use of both the EVDO and WiFi connections will drain your battery in no time flat (unless you were planning on plugging in the device).

--janak

They have one actually! Slingbox now has beta support for Windows Mobile. The only reason I want to use the Sony one is that the battery life is SO much better (4 to 6 hours with the backlight on) and the screen is awesome. You are right about the battery life when using both devices, although I would just use it for "snacking" between times when I was at a PC (since you can charge via USB). Another application that is free that allows for TV watching on any device is called Orb, although the PSP's web browser specifically BLOCKS all streaming content! They do this so you MUST buy their LocationFree TV service.

[Janak Parekh]

The only reason I want to use the Sony one is that the battery life is SO much better (4 to 6 hours with the backlight on) and the screen is awesome.
The former is negated by the reduced life of the Pocket PC (I wouldn't expect it to last 4-6 hours with both WiFi and EVDO being stressed). As for the latter, that's probably true for now, except for the VGA Pocket PC Phones.

although the PSP's web browser specifically BLOCKS all streaming content! They do this so you MUST buy their LocationFree TV service.
... and is precisely why I increasingly avoid all Sony solutions.

--janak

[wifi4milez]

The only reason I want to use the Sony one is that the battery life is SO much better (4 to 6 hours with the backlight on) and the screen is awesome.
The former is negated by the reduced life of the Pocket PC (I wouldn't expect it to last 4-6 hours with both WiFi and EVDO being stressed). As for the latter, that's probably true for now, except for the VGA Pocket PC Phones.

although the PSP's web browser specifically BLOCKS all streaming content! They do this so you MUST buy their LocationFree TV service.
... and is precisely why I increasingly avoid all Sony solutions.

--janak

I purchased a Slingbox today based on the advice of Janak. I figure that although the screen on the PSP is fantastic, I do carry my PPC phone with me at all times. Because of this fact I have determined that using an application that works natively on the PPC is the best idea. Hopefully they will write some code to make it work for the PSP though! So far it is pretty cool yet the beta for Windows Mobile is not publically available (yet).

[Janak Parekh]

8O I didn't recommend the Slingbox per se, but I hope it works out well for you. :P

--janak