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Mahmood
10-29-2005, 10:31 PM
Hi

Anybody knows of a free quicktime player for pocket pcs?

GSmith
10-29-2005, 11:44 PM
Hello!

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43861&highlight=quicktime

Patrick Y.
10-29-2005, 11:53 PM
Nope. There is no free player for quicktime.

Welcome to the Pocket PC world!!! :D

GSmith
10-30-2005, 12:58 AM
It's a little more complicated that that.

Some encodings ARE supported. If you have a .MOV file, TCPMP may very well play it.

I tested 7 "random" videos from 4 different sources. Only one did NOT play (and the video played fine, the audio codec was not recognized by TCPMP).

See the link I pointed to above. In particular, this post: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=371106#371106

Patrick Y.
10-30-2005, 03:49 AM
It's a little more complicated that that.

Some encodings ARE supported. If you have a .MOV file, TCPMP may very well play it.

I tested 7 "random" videos from 4 different sources. Only one did NOT play (and the video played fine, the audio codec was not recognized by TCPMP).

See the link I pointed to above. In particular, this post: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=371106#371106

Thanks... It's just that i never get mov file to work with TCPMP

Darius Wey
10-30-2005, 04:04 AM
Thanks... It's just that i never get mov file to work with TCPMP

A lot of the time, people wanting to play MOV files are wanting to play trailers released by Apple. Unfortunately, the vast majority of them use H.264, which TCPMP does not support. You should be able to play back the audio, but not the video. However, if you play a MOV which contains an audio and video stream that TCPMP supports, then it should play back with no problems whatsoever.

Patrick Y.
10-30-2005, 04:23 AM
Thanks... It's just that i never get mov file to work with TCPMP

A lot of the time, people wanting to play MOV files are wanting to play trailers released by Apple. Unfortunately, the vast majority of them use H.264, which TCPMP does not support. You should be able to play back the audio, but not the video. However, if you play a MOV which contains an audio and video stream that TCPMP supports, then it should play back with no problems whatsoever.

That's exactly what happened. Thanks for clarifying.

just a thought, what happen to your avatar? :) :wink: 8O

Darius Wey
10-30-2005, 04:49 AM
just a thought, what happen to your avatar? :) :wink: 8O

Halloween is around the corner. If I can't scare you guys and gals in person, I'll do it on the forums. :) :lol:

Patrick Y.
10-30-2005, 06:05 AM
just a thought, what happen to your avatar? :) :wink: 8O

Halloween is around the corner. If I can't scare you guys and gals in person, I'll do it on the forums. :) :lol:

But your avatar looks too cute to be scary!! You know, I think it will be better if you come up with a creepy scare on the frontpage concerning Pocket PC, such as that ALL future Pocket PC will ship without Wifi and Bluetooth. :lol:

Darius Wey
10-30-2005, 08:07 AM
You know, I think it will be better if you come up with a creepy scare on the frontpage concerning Pocket PC, such as that ALL future Pocket PC will ship without Wifi and Bluetooth. :lol:

That would be beyond scary. More apocalyptic than anything else. ;)

GSmith
10-30-2005, 10:52 PM
Unfortunately, the vast majority of them use H.264, which TCPMP does not support.

And *that's* not entirely true either. TCPMP does have limited H.264 support with the ffmpeg "subset" plugin. See http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4393
for a lot more details than I could give ;-)

I am testing TCPMP (version 0.66a) on videos that people are trying to encode for the video iPod. I am trying to keep up with them by letting them know when/if their H.264 videos play back properly on a Pocket PC.
I'm not an expert, but I have some experience here if only from the "try it and see" aspect. So far H.264 seems like it is supported, but as stated on the link above, it is a little slow. Many videos in the 800kbps - 1500kbps range are showing some dropped frames. The biggest question that I have so far is that the Video iPod supports H.264 Baseline profile (as opposed to the Main profile). I believe that the videos I've tried so far (and have had some dropped frames) are H.264 Main profile.

You *do* need to download the additional plug-in. And in probably wouldn't hurt to download all 3 or 4 plugins and go ahead and install them for use with TCPMP.

I think many people will look at H.264 and say it's better because the encoded files are of higher quality per file size. I think we are now at the point that that metric is no longer applicable. The appropriate *new* metric for mobile devices is quality per decoding MHz.

Darius Wey
10-31-2005, 04:34 AM
And *that's* not entirely true either. TCPMP does have limited H.264 support with the ffmpeg "subset" plugin. See http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4393
for a lot more details than I could give ;-)

Ah, but it doesn't support it by default. I'm still picking up the pace from a freshly-wiped Pocket PC and don't have any of the plugins installed (mainly due to the lack of need), but now that I've read up on ffmpeg, it does look like a good starting point, albeit a bit slow. I'll give it a go shortly. :)