View Full Version : Pretec Introduces a 4GB SD Card
Darius Wey
07-27-2005, 09:30 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.pretec.com/PR/2005/PR_05-27-08_4GB_SD.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.pretec.com/PR/2005/PR_05...7-08_4GB_SD.htm</a><br /><br /></div><i>"Pretec Electronics Corp., the inventor of iDisk Tiny and CU-Flash, the smallest USB flash Drive in the world since 2003, has released 4GB SD card today, the largest capacity of SD card in the world. Pretec 4GB SD card is the newest addition of its high speed line of 133X SD card, from 256MB to 4GB, with access speed up to 20MB/s, the fastest SD card in the world so far conform to SD 1.1 specification. Constructed with 65 nano-meter 16Gb SLC NAND technology, which is typically one order of magnitude better reliability and 200%-500% faster than MLC NAND. Pretec 133X 4GB SD card is available now for customer sampling with unit price of $699 each, mass production is scheduled by next month. Pretec also announces the availability of 2GB MMC 4.x card (MMC Plus) today. With 8-bit data bus and 52MHz clock rate, MMC 4.x card can be 400% faster than today’s SD card commonly available in the market, or 200% faster than the latest SD 1.1 specification."</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050727-Pretec4GBSD.jpg" /><br /><br />4GB SD and 2GB MMC Plus. Yes, the dark side beckons. You know you want one. And you know you want it now. ;)
stevelam
07-27-2005, 10:18 AM
4GB SD and 2GB MMC Plus. Yes, the dark side beckons. You know you want one. And you know you want it now. ;)
Yep your right I want one now. Imagine, it would go really nicely in my HTC Universal (when it comes out of course). I do however think that it is a little expensive!! At just over £350 each I could buy 8 1gb cards, now hows that for value!
signothefish
07-27-2005, 12:21 PM
Actually, in the US, I could buy at least 12 1GB SD cards for the same amount. 8O
lapchinj
07-27-2005, 02:07 PM
...Yes, the dark side beckons. You know you want one. And you know you want it now. ;)
I wonder how Jon Westfall is doing with his diet. I've gained 10lbs and this offer is not helping me but the price is still having a sobering effect. But once in mass production that should come down and by the time my diet runs out I should be able to find it for under $100 :D . Looks like Pretec is really on a 'peddle to the metal' technology roll which is really nice. Do they give out yellow jerseys for the current leaders in technology?
Well Jon how are you really doing :devilboy: ?
Jeff-
When they first announced these, the press release said your device had to conform to sd 1.1.
Does that mean that most devices will not be compatible with this card? Or that most devices will just not be able to use the extra speed of the card?
stevelam
07-27-2005, 03:03 PM
Actually, in the US, I could buy at least 12 1GB SD cards for the same amount. 8O
Grrrrrr
Dyvim
07-27-2005, 03:09 PM
and how many 1 GB CF cards could you buy for the $4,999 price tag of their 12 GB CF card? Quite a few.
12 GB CF + 4 GB SD = 16 GB storage for dual-slot PPCs!
Personally I wouldn't buy this new 4 GB SD card until the price <= 4 x cheapest comparable speed\quality 1 GB SD card. If anything price per GB should be cheaper for bigger cards not more expensive.
Darius Wey
07-27-2005, 03:21 PM
When they first announced these, the press release said your device had to conform to sd 1.1.
Does that mean that most devices will not be compatible with this card? Or that most devices will just not be able to use the extra speed of the card?
They're backward compatible. So, you would still be able to use them on most standard devices - you just wouldn't feel the added speed boost (for now, anyway). Over the next year or two, I'm sure we'll see more and more Pocket PCs surface with the new spec.
maximum360
07-27-2005, 06:23 PM
I'm guessing within a years time the price will drop to ~ $200 or less.
ricksfiona
07-27-2005, 06:24 PM
Wow, this is way cool!
With 1GB, you really get some good music capacity.
With 2GB, you can add some video.
With 4GB, you can comfortably have both!
For me, the current sweet spot is 1GB. This is a decent amount of space for MP3 files and my work data. With some of my music, work data and a couple of music videos, I still have 512MB left on my SD card. I'd probably use another 200MB with a nicer selection of music.
I just couldn't justify getting a 2GB card. It's enough for a couple of movies and a few more MP3's, but I always felt hald back by the capacity.
4GB opens up a whole new world. Now you can have several movies, plenty of MP3 and work data. No problem with capacity. Now the other problems:
a) Battery capcity. There's no way you're going to have enough juice to last through a couple of movies.
b) Price. For high-end SD cards, I don't pay more than $200. So I'll have to wait.
My first vacation in 6 years will be next year to Europe, and I'm leaving from California. I'll be in the air for hours, so having plenty of movies and music on tap will be important. I'm calling the airlines I'll be taking to see if they have any power-ports for electronic devices. And since my trip is next year, hopefully the price of these 4GB wonders will be in my range.
THANKS Pretec!!!
...With 4GB, you can comfortably have both!...
...4GB opens up a whole new world. Now you can have several movies, plenty of MP3 and work data...
I currently have 6gb of storage, 4gb cf and 2gb sd, and I can tell you, it's not enough!!!
You can always find something to put on it, I have 2.5gb for wikipedia and 1 movie coded in such a way that it takes 1gb plus all the other stuff. All told I have about 400mb left.
you can get a 8gb cf for $650, saw it as low as $629.
Newsboy
07-27-2005, 07:47 PM
I'd use a 4Gb SD card with one of the many super-mini flash based MP3 players out there. They're usually pretty rugged, have great battery life, smaller than an iPod Mini, and most of them have an SD card slot. Outstanding.
saru83
07-27-2005, 07:59 PM
THIS is an awesome news, although the price is high and within 3-6 monts of its release it will drop to half price or even less, but i know myself i will pay the full price and get it as soon as its out there :D
But i wonder if it will be compateble with my Imate Jam :? , Any thoughts??
Regards,
Sarwat
Brad Adrian
07-27-2005, 08:14 PM
For those of us who don't pretend to understand how all of this SD card technology works, can somebody explain just HOW the technology is changing?
What makes a 4GB card possible today and not possible last year?
Dyvim
07-27-2005, 08:54 PM
I currently have 6gb of storage, 4gb cf and 2gb sd, and I can tell you, it's not enough!!!
Agreed. I have the same basic setup and could already use more room. I use the 4gb cf card for MP3s with a little space leftover for backups - which is roughly equivalent to the 1st generation iPOD minis. Then I use the 2gb sd card for 2 movies (I encode movies to be about 1gb each so they're fairly high bitrate). If I had an 8gb cf card or a 4gb sd card I could fit more mp3s and not have to rotate stock as often (get tired of listening to the same music after awhile).
I've had my eye on the 8gb CF card for a while, but I'm waiting for the price to drop to $600 delivered or less.
Battery capcity. There's no way you're going to have enough juice to last through a couple of movies.
With a 5800mAh extended battery, watching 2 movies or listening to many hours of music is not a problem on those long journeys.
jasondearyou
07-27-2005, 08:58 PM
you are right I would really like that in my ppc and I could use the cf slot for gsm, fm radio, gsm(well now they have built in gps and gsm) but I would have to wait until the price comes down.
I recently bought three of the 2GB SanDisk 60x SD cards (to replace the three 1GB 60x SD cards and a couple of 512MB ones I was using, which are now being put to secondary uses).
A 4GB SD card would be so awesome...
ADBrown
07-29-2005, 08:14 AM
I currently have 6gb of storage, 4gb cf and 2gb sd, and I can tell you, it's not enough!!!
You sound upset. You shouldn't torment yourself this way. You are getting very sleepy. You should rid yourself of this curse. Your eyelids are growing heavy. Send your memory cards to me. 0X
Your eyelids are growing heavy. Send your memory cards to me. 0X
I seem to be getting a little drowsy, find myself wanting to go to the post office for some reason....
k1darkknight
07-29-2005, 10:48 PM
Okay, here's a question: is SD 1.0 vs SD 1.1 a difference in hardware, software, firmware, or some combination of these? If it's just software/firmware, wouldn't it be (hypothetically) possible to upgrade a PPC's drivers/firmware from 1.0 to 1.1? I know PPC's don't typically take full advantage of the top speeds of the fastest SD (and CF) cards, but...? Dunno, maybe it's just wishful thinking.
Janak Parekh
07-30-2005, 01:16 AM
For those of us who don't pretend to understand how all of this SD card technology works, can somebody explain just HOW the technology is changing?
Silicon density increases as the manufacturing processes improve. :) It's a variation on the usual miniaturization of technology.
--janak
saru83
07-30-2005, 01:52 AM
1st i heard that Max SD card will support 4GB then after couple of months i heard that its 32GB... does that mean that after couple of months or years we will have 32GB SD CARDS???? Any thoughts??? 8O
Regards,
Sarwat
1st i heard that Max SD card will support 4GB then after couple of months i heard that its 32GB... does that mean that after couple of months or years we will have 32GB SD CARDS???? Any thoughts??? 8O
Regards,
Sarwat
This is a typical example of misinformation that spreads around.
From what Ican tell it comes from an article from the Taiwan site Digital Times (if Iremember right) that showed a table with a wrong figure on it: they were comparing a newer card technology with SD, miniSD and other formats; they copied/pasted the data from one line to the other, displaying the wrong data for the max technology limits for SD as being the same as miniSD.
This new card technology was presented here with the wrong data being reported as well.
After careful check,from the official SD Association site, I noticed that miniSD maximum technology limits is 4 GB, while the same for SD is 32 GB.
I informed both Digital Times and Iposted the information here on the relevant thread. However the first post presenting thenew card technology was not corrected and only my subsequent post, a page or more later, reported the corrected figures. Digital Times corrected the data on their site chart.
To summerize, anybody reading this wrong information here and anywhere on numerous other sites that reported the wrong data still believe today those wrong figures.
saru83
08-01-2005, 07:02 PM
After careful check,from the official SD Association site, I noticed that miniSD maximum technology limits is 4 GB, while the same for SD is 32 GB.
That was pretty informative, thx buddy!! :wink:
Regards,
Sarwat
k1darkknight
10-09-2005, 06:35 AM
Okay, here's a question: is SD 1.0 vs SD 1.1 a difference in hardware, software, firmware, or some combination of these? If it's just software/firmware, wouldn't it be (hypothetically) possible to upgrade a PPC's drivers/firmware from 1.0 to 1.1? I know PPC's don't typically take full advantage of the top speeds of the fastest SD (and CF) cards, but...? Dunno, maybe it's just wishful thinking.
unrelated quote
After careful check,from the official SD Association site, I noticed that miniSD maximum technology limits is 4 GB, while the same for SD is 32 GB.
But STILL wanna know about the difference between SD 1.0 vs 1.1
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