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A_C
07-21-2005, 10:38 PM
Hi, dont know if anyone posted this before, but what i found is when you try to connect via wifi you cant, unless you goto the wifi settings on the PDA, and set the Wireless Network you're using as your "Work Network" rather than "Connects to the Internet"...

Once you use the network as a "work" network you will lose the ability to browse the net, which is silly.

So in conclusion, make sure Ethernet connect is enabled on ActiveSync (On your PC), enable "Maintain Connection" on your PDA Active sync conection settings, and it will work...

But remember Wifi Sync for some odd reason means you cant browse/access the net via wifi.

Nurhisham Hussein
07-22-2005, 03:09 AM
You'll need to tick the 'This network connects to the internet' checkbox under Settings->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks->Edit->Proxy Settings. Should work then.

A_C
07-23-2005, 11:33 PM
You'll need to tick the 'This network connects to the internet' checkbox under Settings->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks->Edit->Proxy Settings. Should work then.

Uhh right, but then you cant wifi sync...Which defeats the whole purpose of this thread and the whole purpose of trying to sync via wifi :oops:

Sven Johannsen
07-24-2005, 12:20 AM
Should be able to. With the normal connections set to Work, and the 'connects to internet' box checked on the proxy tab of the Work profile, you should be able to both AS and connect to the internet, i.e. Web browse, IM, etc.

What you loose with those settings is the ability to establish a VPN.

I have know idea what prompted the designers to set it up this way, but the options try to cover two situations.

1) Internet - your PPC is directly connected to the internet and has some public IP. It has no peers on it's subnet to speak of. This typically happens if you are an internet Cafe, or a public hotspot, or if you have a wired network card and hook the PPC straight to the ISP. You don't typically want to talk to any other 'local' machines, but rather want to talk to the internet. Things are almost always routed to a gateway. It is very hard to sync to a PC on your network as all the traffic is routed out of it by default.

2) Work - You are part of a network, and your desire is to talk to other hosts on that network. Your traffic is broadcast over the subnet, all other hosts hear you and the intended recipient responds. You are on an intra-net. This is typical in a business environment. Syncing to a PC on your network should work fine as it is on the intra-net. At this point, talking outside your network isn't defined as to how you would do that. To get to the inter-net, often you have to go through a proxy, a kind of a gate guard for inter-net traffic, for security reasons. At least you have to define that the intra-net does have an inter-net capability, and then who the proxy is, if there is one. In lieu of a proxy, the gateway macine as defined in the IP settings says who is going to forward the traffic. The check box is needed to establish that it can be forwarded. Establishing Work as the base, with internet access, should allow packets to stay in the intra-net, or be forwarded to the inter-net as needed.

Home wireless networks were not at all common when the options were developed. They are now, of course, so many really are working in sort of a business intra-net environment, with a connection from that intra-net to the inter-net. So you have to say Work, if you want to AS, and then you have to define that an internet connection exists.

VPN doesn't work in the Work mode because it is designed to securely access your intra-net from the inter-net. e.g. you are sitting at Starbucks, and want to establish a secure link into your business (home) intra-net. Problem is that with Work set as the base operating mode, you told the PPC you are already in the intra-net, why would you need to set up a VPN? You are already there, so it won't let you.

In a real PC, it pretty much works in mode two and handles things based on the IP addresses provided, IP, mask, gateway, proxy, etc., and the destination of the packets. Maybe someday PPCs will work that way too.

Jorgen
07-24-2005, 12:31 PM
The funny thing - if it is funny - is that the 2000 PPC operating system does not differ between "work" and "internet", meaning it is far better suited to the modern wi-fi routers than later operating systems. The only "but" with at least the 2000 and 2002 operating systems is that you normally have to set WINS to the IP address of the PC you want to sync with even if you do not have WINS. But then it works nicely.

Jorgen

Sven Johannsen
07-24-2005, 06:58 PM
The funny thing - if it is funny - is that the 2000 PPC operating system does not differ between "work" and "internet", meaning it is far better suited to the modern wi-fi routers than later operating systems. The only "but" with at least the 2000 and 2002 operating systems is that you normally have to set WINS to the IP address of the PC you want to sync with even if you do not have WINS. But then it works nicely.

Jorgen

It's been a while, but I do believe you are right. The 'new and improved' connection manager was a PPC2002 fiasc..uh, feature.