Ed's ThoughtCast - July 19, 2005 [Archive]

Ed Hansberry

07-20-2005, 02:02 AM

<a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/podcast/PocketPCThoughtsCast20050719.mp3">http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/podcast/PocketPCThoughtsCast20050719.mp3</a> Here is the latest ThoughtCast.<img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/webcast.gif" /> Show notes: • Using an open WiFi network - <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41436">Original article</a>, <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41472">the poll</a> • <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41518">Persistent Storage</a> in Windows Mobile 5 • <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41481">Newsbreak 1.1</a> released • Rant on automatically installed today plugins • Good-bye CityTime. I'll miss you but at least I won't be woken up an hour early anymore. The RSS link with enclosures for your podcasting software is <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/podcast/thoughtcast.xml">here</a>.

Mike Temporale

07-20-2005, 02:10 AM

Hey Ed, has there been any work done on the sound quality? :)

Ed Hansberry

07-20-2005, 02:21 AM

Hey Ed, has there been any work done on the sound quality? :)Uhm..... a little. ;-)

MS Mobiles

07-20-2005, 02:23 AM

Hey Ed, has there been any work done on the sound quality? :)Uhm..... a little. ;-)

Yeah! Good! Indeed voice quality improved a little bit. Thanks for the podcast, Ed!

BTW: Mike Temporale: now it's your turn and do smartphone podcast for smartphone thoughts ! :lol:

OSUKid7

07-20-2005, 02:31 AM

Sounding a lot better. :D Ooooh oooh oooh though...some of the stuff you said about "war driving" and ethical/unethical in D.C. Not entirely correct and/or I don't fully agree with you. This is a great topic to debate. Hopefully the topics will come up again (and be discussed civilly) here on PPCT.

Mike Temporale

07-20-2005, 02:38 AM

BTW: Mike Temporale: now it's your turn and do smartphone podcast for smartphone thoughts ! :lol:

Yeah... I don't know. I don't really have much to say. ;)

MS Mobiles

07-20-2005, 03:13 AM

Could you guys create separate category (or webpage) of news for podcasts so that list of all podcasts could be available at one glance?

Darius Wey

07-20-2005, 03:25 AM

Love the intro music, Ed. :lol:

Busdriver

07-20-2005, 04:22 AM

Is there someplace we could READ this?

Ed Hansberry

07-20-2005, 04:27 AM

Is there someplace we could READ this?
No. It is 100% audio, except for the show notes. It took me 37 minutes to say it. No way am I going to type it. Sort of defeats the purpose of a podcast anyway. :wink:

Dave Conger

07-20-2005, 04:37 AM

No. It is 100% audio, except for the show notes. It took me 37 minutes to say it. No way am I going to type it. Sort of defeats the purpose of a podcast anyway. :wink:

What? Come on, I am sure you can find someone to transcribe if for you. You have a following. :wink:

ctmagnus

07-20-2005, 04:48 AM

1:00 in: no road noise! :bad-words: Bring back the road noise!

j/k :mrgreen:

OSUKid7

07-20-2005, 04:56 AM

1:00 in: no road noise! :bad-words: Bring back the road noise!

j/k :mrgreen:
Oh don't worry, there's still the ambulance in there. ;) :lol:

ctmagnus

07-20-2005, 05:07 AM

re: the initial sync: Syncing several thousand 1-2kB files can tend to take a while, even with a fairly fast processor on the desktop end.

Darius Wey

07-20-2005, 05:20 AM

re: the initial sync: Syncing several thousand 1-2kB files can tend to take a while, even with a fairly fast processor on the desktop end.

But in the long run with PS, it's not going to matter. Sure, you may have to burn an extra minute or two when you first set up your device, but subsequent syncs will be almost as fast it were pre-PS days, since you're only needing to write maybe a few PIM updates, as opposed to the hundreds or thousands in the initial synchronisation.

MS Mobiles

07-20-2005, 12:21 PM

No. It is 100% audio, except for the show notes. It took me 37 minutes to say it. No way am I going to type it. Sort of defeats the purpose of a podcast anyway. :wink:

Exactly, this is the whole charm of podcasting - available ONLY in audio. Besides intonation and stress of voice of the speaker also conveys information that is not transcribeable... No, there should be no transcriptions of podcasts. Either listen to it, or lose it! :devilboy:

Mike Temporale

07-20-2005, 01:25 PM

Good job Ed! I've just finished listening and I have to say this vesion is much better than the last. :D

Busdriver

07-20-2005, 03:11 PM

Darius Wey

07-20-2005, 03:41 PM

OK. Your choice. But I'm not interested in listening to it. I'd MUCH prefer to read this material. Podcast's are cool (I guess) but they don't seem worth it. Surely I'm not the only one here that thinks this.

Enjoy reading your material but I guess I'm going to miss this one. :(

Do note that Ed has included a short list of show notes with each publication of a ThoughtCast. It's very brief, but for the most part, they contain links to most of the topics discussed in his audio feed. Sure, you'll miss the whacky mindworks of Ed, but I guess it's better than nothing. :)

Janak Parekh

07-20-2005, 03:45 PM

OK. Your choice. But I'm not interested in listening to it. I'd MUCH prefer to read this material. Podcast's are cool (I guess) but they don't seem worth it. Surely I'm not the only one here that thinks this.
I generally don't have the patience for podcasts either. But remember, this is not crucial news or something. It's like missing a radio show -- no biggie. (Ed, please don't take offense. :P)

--janak

disconnected

07-20-2005, 03:54 PM

I'm with Busdriver. I don't even like audiobooks, and I never listen to talk shows on the radio. I enjoy reading a lot more (and it's easier to skim or pick and choose the bits to read). I've never looked into any speech-to-text software, but I'm guessing it's still not ready for prime time, or at least not ready for a southern accent. :D

chasmanor

07-20-2005, 04:17 PM

Ed,

I just listened to your podcast. It was clear as a bell. I only heard the ambulance - no other background noise. And it was extremely interesting. I hope you keep doing this.

MS Mobiles

07-20-2005, 04:22 PM

I'm with Busdriver. I don't even like

but some people are commuting and have a lot of time to kill and some people like to listen to podcasts. The fact that iTunes users now do several million downloads of podcasts a day proves it.

of course it is not for everyone, but please stop complaining and don't spoil the fun for those who like it. if you like to read, read, but don't complain here that you don't like to listen...

dean_shan

07-20-2005, 04:53 PM

The sound quality was much better, good job. However it really urks me when you say 'Thoughtscast' instead of 'podcast'. But that's really not a big problem in the grand scheme of things.

Busdriver

07-20-2005, 05:23 PM

Complain, complain, complain.....Might as well throw in a coupla whines too.

:D

Jason Dunn

07-20-2005, 07:17 PM

However it really urks me when you say 'Thoughtscast' instead of 'podcast'. But that's really not a big problem in the grand scheme of things.

The term podcast "urks" me (it's "irks" BTW) because this has nothing to do with iPods and ultimately it's just a word made up by an MTV Apple fanboy. Podcasts are just audio recordings in an RSS enclosure, and audio recordings have been around the 'Net for a long time. Ultimately the important part of the term is "cast" not "pod". You'll find over the next 12 months the term podcast will morph into other things - Microsoft is calling them "BlogCasts", and other terms will pop up as well.

I personally LOVE the term ThoughtCast that Ed came up with because it's a casting (throwing) of opinion out into the vast ether that is the 'Net...how poetic! :mrgreen:

Jason Dunn

07-20-2005, 07:37 PM

I'm with Busdriver. I don't even like audiobooks, and I never listen to talk shows on the radio.

I'm kind of in the same boat - I don't have a commute, so for me listening to audiocasts isn't a very efficient use of my time. But it seems a significant number of people aren't like us and want to listen to them, so it seems that not everyone is like us. ;-) If you don't want to listen to it, that's fine, but that doesn't make it any less valid as a format.

Sully

07-20-2005, 10:15 PM

I am enjoying it from my desk while I work. Great stuff.

DavesiPAQ

07-21-2005, 01:20 AM

Ed I wasnt sure if you were aware but there is already a thougtcast out there.. If you want to see it click http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=75677529&selectedItemId=218359. I was looking in iTunes searching to subscribe to your podcast and this is what is coming up..

Busdriver

07-21-2005, 02:02 AM

So, will anybody tell me what Ed said about CityTime?

dean_shan

07-21-2005, 04:55 AM

It's "irks" BTW
Thanks

It has nothing to do with iPods and ultimately it's just a word made up by an MTV Apple fanboy.

But it was Adam Curry who helped coin the term and really made the technology take off.

Jason Dunn

07-21-2005, 05:39 AM

So, will anybody tell me what Ed said about CityTime?

Please tell me you're not going to do this every time we post one of these. 8O

Darius Wey

07-21-2005, 10:07 AM

But it was Adam Curry who helped coin the term and really made the technology take off.

It's interesting that nowadays, any "pod"-inclusive term leads to a new wave of iconic pop culture and what not. :lol:

Busdriver

07-21-2005, 01:51 PM

Please tell me you're not going to do this every time we post one of these

No, I won't do this every time you post one of these.

Unless I'm interested in the subject. :D

Edited to add: Hopefully you won't do to many of these, at least without a transcript.

Jason Dunn

07-21-2005, 03:39 PM

Edited to add: Hopefully you won't do to many of these, at least without a transcript.

You're killing me here man. How can you possibly be so unclear on the concept when so many people have explained it to you, over and over? Look, podcasts/blogcasts/thoughtcasts/whatever generally do NOT get transcribed because it would just take too much effort, and it completely defeats the purpose. If you don't want to listen to them, that's 100% ok - some will, some won't. And it's not like we're publishing less news, or moving to an all-audio format or anything. This is just something Ed is doing for fun, and the more you complain about it, the less fun it is for all of us. ;-)

Ed Hansberry

07-21-2005, 03:51 PM

Edited to add: Hopefully you won't do to many of these, at least without a transcript.
Let me clear this up for you.

1. There is no transcript.
2. There are often no notes. I left them on the printer, and the notes were basically what I copied and pasted into the original post - I just added links.
3. Therefore, it is almost TOTALLY off the top of my head.

Therefore, unless you want to transcribe it yourself, there will be no transcript. That is how these things work.

In case I wasn't clear, approximately 100% of my future ThoughtCasts will be transcript free. :D

Busdriver

07-21-2005, 04:03 PM

Ed Hansberry

07-21-2005, 05:57 PM

Young man, do NOT lecture me on life and what to expect out of it. I would say that after almost 50 years I have a fair idea of what I can and cannot expect out of life.

There are hundreds of places to get the same, timely information as to be found here.

Pocketpcthoughts, it was fun will it lasted.

Good luck, Jason. :D
Sorry to see you go Busdriver. Pocket PC Thoughts isn't changing anything. Always plan to have the same timely information as before. This is just a new added feature and it has a certain format. Sorry if you feel the addition of that somehow detracts from our existing and continuing offerings to the point the site is now less that it previously was for you.

disconnected

07-21-2005, 10:29 PM

Ed Hansberry

07-21-2005, 10:37 PM

Jason Dunn

07-22-2005, 02:39 AM

This is really discouraging. I didn't intend anything I said to be a complaint, and I don't think Busdriver did either. There were so many angry responses that I reread my posts and busdriver's several times to see what could have caused all that animosity, but I just can't see it. :(

I find it really discouraging, and get a little hot under the collar, when people complain about the effort that someone else puts in with the best intentions. It's like someone walking up to an artist that has just painted a mural and saying "I hate murals, I'll never look at this, why did you even bother?" and all the artist wanted was to create something that others might like or find useful. Note that it's not the same as saying "Yeah, it was ok, but maybe you should have done XYZ" - there's healthy criticism in the spirit of making things better, and there's criticism of the whole IDEA, which is simply rude. You may not like something that someone does, but to tell them not to do it is unacceptable in this forum, and usually, in life. ;-)

If you look back on this thread, things didn't start to get tense until Busdriver's fourth post complaining about the concept, the lack of a transcript, etc. I don't believe it was his intention to attack the concept, but I think there's only so many "yeah, but..." comments can be made until people get irritated. I know I heard him the first time - I even agreed with both him and you in saying that I don't listen to audiocasts very often either, but that doesn't mean I think any less of Ed's efforts.

Anyway, I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion, and a large part of that is my fault. Ultimately I think everyone needs to realize that not everything we do will be a "perfect fit" with every single reader, but that doesn't make it any less valid. The 1500+ people that downloaded Ed's first ThoughtCast are proof of that. ;-)

Zidane

07-22-2005, 05:12 PM

Well, to bring things to a more positive note, I just want to say that I like this format. I have a longish commute to work as well, so I enjoy catching up during that drive. Plus, since I code for a living and have deadlines, I don't always have time to sit and read an article (though I enjoy doing that, too). So, listening while I work is quite nice.

So Ed, thank you and keep up the good work!

brianbar

07-22-2005, 09:52 PM

Here's my 2 cents worth. I think the 'Thoughtcast' idea is great, and very well done. I even liked the background noise in the first episode!

I'm sitting here in New Zealand having my breakfast and clearing my email while listening. Now I couldn't possibly read all of that opinion while doing those things, and I would miss the emotion and emphasis if I was just reading the words anyway. Surely that is the point... this recording is a new feature that suits some of us down to the ground. Others feel that the written word is the only way to go.. then fine, there's plenty of written word around too, just don't get your knickers on a knot when someone provides great audio without a transcript.

I do work in radio though, so I'm pretty used to this argument. "Hey I loved that interview this morning, can you send me a transcript?" My reply goes like this "There is a recording of the interview on the Web site, and you are welcome to listen back to it. We can't provide transcripts, but there is a firm who will do it for you at (09) xxx-xxxx. They will charge you around $50" They generally lose interest in getting a transcript very fast!

bdoherty

07-27-2005, 11:41 PM

Ed, I really enjoyed your thoughtcast. When will you be doing you next one?

Cheers,
Brendan

PS. If people really want transcrips, I'll glady transcribe the thoughtcasts for my standard rate of $1000USD per thoughtcast (of which 20% will be donate to support pocketpcthoughts) :devilboy:

Ed Hansberry

07-28-2005, 02:11 AM

Ed, I really enjoyed your thoughtcast. When will you be doing you next one?
My goal is to do one roughly weekly, so there isn't a set day and I won't feel pressure if I skip a week or feel like I have to wait a few days and get the urge to do 2 in a 3-5 day period.

So when will I do it again? Uhm.... http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=357468 :D

couplandsj

07-31-2005, 09:24 AM

Ed, Jason,

I normally just lurk here (and find the information very useful), however I wanted to support your efforts in producing the Thoughtcast's.

Ever since I had my first iPAQ (36xx) I wondered what I would use the media player for (I'm not a music lover), now I have for the first time found a real reason to listen to something on the device.

I too spend a lot of time in the car, so can't keep up to date with the web site as much as I'd like. The Thoughtcast is perfect..!

Cheers

Simon

ps As a novice to this type of media, is there a way to automate the process of getting the Thoughtcast on to my iPAQ..?

Ed Hansberry

07-31-2005, 02:09 PM

ps As a novice to this type of media, is there a way to automate the process of getting the Thoughtcast on to my iPAQ..?
I use FeedDemon (http://www.bradsoft.com/feeddemon/) which will automatically download enclosures and insert them into a Windows Media Player 10 playlist. WMP10 can be set to automatically sync specific playlists with a device.

FeedDemon isn't free though and buying software might be a bit much for one purpose like this. Perhaps someone else knows of a freeware alternative that will do this?

Darius Wey

07-31-2005, 03:56 PM

FeedDemon isn't free though and buying software might be a bit much for one purpose like this. Perhaps someone else knows of a freeware alternative that will do this?

If I recall correctly, FeederReader (http://www.feederreader.com/) supports <insert word here>-cast listening which is a handy feature to have on the Pocket PC. As far as I'm aware, it's donation-ware.

GSmith

08-01-2005, 12:57 AM

Perhaps someone else knows of a freeware alternative that will do this?

If I recall correctly, FeederReader (http://www.feederreader.com/) supports <insert word here>-cast listening which is a handy feature to have on the Pocket PC. As far as I'm aware, it's donation-ware.

You do recall correctly! FeederReader can handle any enclosure that can be played/launched on your Pocket PC. I maintain Forums for questions, comments, suggestions, and discussion. Check out www.FeederReader.com and click on the sidebar "Forums".

Of course, *I* think it's worth the donation. I hope you do, too. Free to download and try. If you're still using it in a month or two, I hope you find the time to donate :D

Greg Smith
Author, FeederReader - Pocket PC *direct* RSS text, audio, video, podcasts
www.FeederReader.com - Download on the Road

Phillip Dyson

08-03-2005, 01:20 AM

Ed,

I just got a chance to listen to your podcast. Great work.
I think the part that stood out was was how well you formed your thoughts while driving.

Either you have a really placid commute, or you can really multitask.

rhmorrison

08-06-2005, 11:28 AM

Ed Hansberry

08-06-2005, 01:52 PM

On Handago (http://www.handango.com) they are selling CityTime v2.5 (http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=852&productId=16103) where the first thing they mention is:

* Corrects incorrect Daylight Saving Rules for Israel, Mexico, Brasil, Iraq and many more contries!

Could this be possibly your problem now corrected :?:
Doubtful. It wasn't just the TZ out of whack. You could launch CityTime and look at the clock at the top and it would say 1pm, Nashville would say 9am and Brazil would say 12pm. Alarms would go off 1 hr before the system clock.